1 00:00:07,430 --> 00:00:03,849 [Music] 2 00:00:10,970 --> 00:00:07,440 the planets often masters almost surely 3 00:00:13,820 --> 00:00:10,980 have a plan this clearly maybe something 4 00:00:16,730 --> 00:00:13,830 there beyond the realm of man and he'll 5 00:00:19,939 --> 00:00:16,740 sell it he tested every classical just 6 00:00:23,090 --> 00:00:19,949 you apply the more you think you know 7 00:00:28,070 --> 00:00:23,100 the less you really do that's true dr. 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:28,080 Zaius where would we be without the 9 00:00:37,939 --> 00:00:36,470 [Music] 10 00:00:42,639 --> 00:00:37,949 [Applause] 11 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:42,649 by Jack show that God 12 00:00:47,330 --> 00:00:45,090 all right higher side chatters we've 13 00:00:49,009 --> 00:00:47,340 heard about many of the tricks the 19th 14 00:00:50,900 --> 00:00:49,019 century robber barons and wealthy 15 00:00:53,119 --> 00:00:50,910 industrialist families have used to 16 00:00:55,819 --> 00:00:53,129 shoehorn society into a profitable path 17 00:00:57,380 --> 00:00:55,829 for their nefarious view things like the 18 00:00:59,990 --> 00:00:57,390 funding and suppressing the work of 19 00:01:02,270 --> 00:01:00,000 Nikola Tesla engineering the Prohibition 20 00:01:04,549 --> 00:01:02,280 era to remove alcohol as a fuel option 21 00:01:06,289 --> 00:01:04,559 crafting a school system designed to 22 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:06,299 command obedience to the management 23 00:01:11,389 --> 00:01:08,970 class buying and barring a plethora of 24 00:01:13,609 --> 00:01:11,399 energy advancing patents and of course 25 00:01:15,770 --> 00:01:13,619 sinking the Titanic to destroy their 26 00:01:17,749 --> 00:01:15,780 political opponents and trap America in 27 00:01:20,210 --> 00:01:17,759 the net of the Federal Reserve's debt 28 00:01:22,460 --> 00:01:20,220 based system of rule but that's not all 29 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:22,470 folks it seems the more we examine this 30 00:01:26,389 --> 00:01:24,090 worrisome window of time the more 31 00:01:28,669 --> 00:01:26,399 connections we find to the way society 32 00:01:30,889 --> 00:01:28,679 has been shaped and manipulated to serve 33 00:01:33,410 --> 00:01:30,899 these petroleum profit ears above all 34 00:01:34,969 --> 00:01:33,420 else and lucky for us this very subject 35 00:01:37,219 --> 00:01:34,979 has been the life's work of today's 36 00:01:39,889 --> 00:01:37,229 guest Kenneth Price Ken reached out to 37 00:01:42,980 --> 00:01:39,899 me after hearing John Hamer discussing 38 00:01:44,899 --> 00:01:42,990 the Titanic conspiracy on THC and told 39 00:01:47,270 --> 00:01:44,909 me he thinks there is a bit more to the 40 00:01:49,430 --> 00:01:47,280 story behind sinking the unsinkable ship 41 00:01:51,410 --> 00:01:49,440 that it might also parallel the great 42 00:01:53,990 --> 00:01:51,420 Hindenburg disaster and that both of 43 00:01:56,300 --> 00:01:54,000 these events seem to be key pieces in 44 00:01:59,119 --> 00:01:56,310 the forced petroleum dependence puzzle 45 00:02:01,609 --> 00:01:59,129 ken has made his case in an amazing yet 46 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:01,619 to be released 400 plus page expose 47 00:02:06,529 --> 00:02:04,170 entitled Titanic and Hindenburg two 48 00:02:08,180 --> 00:02:06,539 tragedies one plan that's bound to blow 49 00:02:10,369 --> 00:02:08,190 minds and I'm psyched to be able to go 50 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:10,379 over it with them today mr. price good 51 00:02:15,020 --> 00:02:13,170 sir welcome to the higher side thank you 52 00:02:18,009 --> 00:02:15,030 very much Greg it's just a great honor 53 00:02:20,509 --> 00:02:18,019 to be here just a super pleasure and so 54 00:02:22,490 --> 00:02:20,519 appreciative that you found interest in 55 00:02:25,369 --> 00:02:22,500 this and we're willing to give me a shot 56 00:02:27,650 --> 00:02:25,379 at this incredible story oh man well 57 00:02:29,270 --> 00:02:27,660 thanks for being here I am so glad you 58 00:02:31,009 --> 00:02:29,280 got in touch with me because as a 59 00:02:33,559 --> 00:02:31,019 conspiracy guy I'm really fascinated 60 00:02:35,900 --> 00:02:33,569 with the industrial era because it seems 61 00:02:37,699 --> 00:02:35,910 like the key time period where we can 62 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:37,709 trace a lot of our current control 63 00:02:41,390 --> 00:02:39,510 system back to and where we see the 64 00:02:43,449 --> 00:02:41,400 wealthiest elite families really cement 65 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:43,459 themselves at the top of the food chain 66 00:02:48,410 --> 00:02:46,050 but before we get too deep I wanted to 67 00:02:50,030 --> 00:02:48,420 ask you how this became such a 68 00:02:51,950 --> 00:02:50,040 preoccupation for you I mean the book 69 00:02:54,770 --> 00:02:51,960 talks about a lot of technical details 70 00:02:55,790 --> 00:02:54,780 and added aspects that suggests you have 71 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:55,800 a lot of knowledge 72 00:03:00,050 --> 00:02:58,290 this area since this is your first time 73 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:00,060 talking publicly about these things I 74 00:03:04,910 --> 00:03:01,770 believe tell us a bit about how you got 75 00:03:06,740 --> 00:03:04,920 here did you work in the industry yes I 76 00:03:08,660 --> 00:03:06,750 did I worked in the oil industry and 77 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:08,670 maybe that's a key component of 78 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:10,530 understanding exactly you know what's 79 00:03:15,740 --> 00:03:13,110 going on here with the Titanic and also 80 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:15,750 the Hindenburg so I I had that 81 00:03:19,910 --> 00:03:17,850 background you know I know the industry 82 00:03:22,490 --> 00:03:19,920 is shady from the beginning I pretty 83 00:03:25,430 --> 00:03:22,500 much learned that after working for him 84 00:03:29,210 --> 00:03:25,440 for 14 years so I had that as a 85 00:03:31,190 --> 00:03:29,220 background but it was in 1985 I was 86 00:03:33,890 --> 00:03:31,200 driving around in the bay area I was 87 00:03:35,630 --> 00:03:33,900 coming back from a job and I heard that 88 00:03:38,540 --> 00:03:35,640 they had found the Titanic and it was in 89 00:03:40,970 --> 00:03:38,550 two pieces and I just thought boy that 90 00:03:44,510 --> 00:03:40,980 is just so unusual so that's kind of 91 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:44,520 where I started and I continued to 92 00:03:51,890 --> 00:03:48,510 ponder and research the Titanic but it 93 00:03:54,620 --> 00:03:51,900 wasn't really until 2005 when there was 94 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:54,630 a another discovery made by an 95 00:04:00,260 --> 00:03:56,490 independent group of divers called 96 00:04:03,050 --> 00:04:00,270 Chatterton and Kohler they financed a 97 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:03,060 dive by themselves and they managed to 98 00:04:08,780 --> 00:04:07,200 find some pieces of the hull of the 99 00:04:12,350 --> 00:04:08,790 Titanic now this is right from the very 100 00:04:15,530 --> 00:04:12,360 bottom of the hole slightly out of 101 00:04:19,310 --> 00:04:15,540 midships right underneath the engines 102 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:19,320 two gigantic pieces that go from port to 103 00:04:24,260 --> 00:04:21,930 starboard and there's two pieces and 104 00:04:26,900 --> 00:04:24,270 each one of them is approximately the 105 00:04:29,420 --> 00:04:26,910 same length of about 30 feet taken 106 00:04:34,190 --> 00:04:29,430 together they represent 5,400 square 107 00:04:37,220 --> 00:04:34,200 feet of pull bottom now when I say hold 108 00:04:39,470 --> 00:04:37,230 bottom we're talking really two bottoms 109 00:04:43,010 --> 00:04:39,480 because the Titanic had a double bottom 110 00:04:45,890 --> 00:04:43,020 it had a one-inch layer of thick steel 111 00:04:48,710 --> 00:04:45,900 on the very bottom and then it had ribs 112 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:48,720 that were five feet tall and then it had 113 00:04:55,220 --> 00:04:51,570 another layer of one-inch thick steel on 114 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:55,230 top of that from the sides came up from 115 00:04:59,510 --> 00:04:57,810 there it happened all the way up the 116 00:05:01,640 --> 00:04:59,520 sides you know 8090 feet 117 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:01,650 were the sides and then it had dined 118 00:05:05,610 --> 00:05:04,110 decks and those were all half-inch thick 119 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:05,620 steel 120 00:05:09,659 --> 00:05:08,110 to make a long story short I think any 121 00:05:12,420 --> 00:05:09,669 metallurgist out there 122 00:05:14,879 --> 00:05:12,430 any person who's really a good welder or 123 00:05:16,439 --> 00:05:14,889 no steel it was worked with steel when I 124 00:05:19,830 --> 00:05:16,449 tell them this they're going to know I'm 125 00:05:23,390 --> 00:05:19,840 I've got a good point because these 126 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:23,400 pieces came out from corner to corner 127 00:05:29,820 --> 00:05:27,490 how do you pull a corner out of a sheet 128 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:29,830 of steel how are you going to pull that 129 00:05:36,450 --> 00:05:33,490 so you can pull a right-angle out of a 130 00:05:40,260 --> 00:05:36,460 piece of plate steel and the fact of the 131 00:05:43,290 --> 00:05:40,270 matter is that steel it might Bend and 132 00:05:47,719 --> 00:05:43,300 it will sort of stretch and it will 133 00:05:51,330 --> 00:05:47,729 eventually break but to tear it is just 134 00:05:54,570 --> 00:05:51,340 almost impossible because it requires so 135 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:54,580 much force as it yields you know it's 136 00:05:59,100 --> 00:05:57,010 stress reliefs itself as you're 137 00:06:00,960 --> 00:05:59,110 stretching it so you have to continue to 138 00:06:03,810 --> 00:06:00,970 pull the load you have to continue 139 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:03,820 continue continue and it is just unreal 140 00:06:10,050 --> 00:06:07,330 to try and tear steel now how how do we 141 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:10,060 end up with these pieces that are 142 00:06:15,300 --> 00:06:13,450 literally square not only that with two 143 00:06:18,089 --> 00:06:15,310 layers is a layer on the top and the 144 00:06:22,770 --> 00:06:18,099 layer on the bottom and the cut lines 145 00:06:25,230 --> 00:06:22,780 are lined up okay mm-hmm and it's cut a 146 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:25,240 four chips in other words crosswise to 147 00:06:31,620 --> 00:06:28,450 the ship on the bottom two layers and 148 00:06:36,180 --> 00:06:31,630 it's cut in three places normally you'd 149 00:06:39,629 --> 00:06:36,190 have failure occur in one place when 150 00:06:42,779 --> 00:06:39,639 something fails a beam a column whatever 151 00:06:46,050 --> 00:06:42,789 fails in one place the Titanic failed 152 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:46,060 has three points of failure total lines 153 00:06:52,250 --> 00:06:49,690 of failure along the bottom now this is 154 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:52,260 getting a little hard to take because 155 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:54,610 let's go back to the original story 156 00:07:00,600 --> 00:06:57,849 where the Titanic struck an iceberg on 157 00:07:03,330 --> 00:07:00,610 the starboard side this is how it is 158 00:07:05,700 --> 00:07:03,340 written up in the United States disaster 159 00:07:08,580 --> 00:07:05,710 hearings it's also written up that way 160 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:08,590 in the British Board of Trade hearings 161 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:10,810 that were held after the Titanic 162 00:07:15,870 --> 00:07:13,810 disaster both of them this is written 163 00:07:19,410 --> 00:07:15,880 into their hearings that the cause of 164 00:07:22,230 --> 00:07:19,420 the Titanic sinking was 300 feet 165 00:07:25,740 --> 00:07:22,240 of damage done along the starboard side 166 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:25,750 of the valve such that five compartments 167 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:30,250 had to flood in order for the Titanic to 168 00:07:39,780 --> 00:07:33,970 sink because it had 16 water tight 169 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:39,790 compartments so it had to receive damage 170 00:07:47,460 --> 00:07:44,890 at least say 260 270 feet so it went 171 00:07:49,260 --> 00:07:47,470 into that fifth compartment as well as 172 00:07:53,610 --> 00:07:49,270 the bow and the floor back from there 173 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:53,620 and it would have needed to tear now 174 00:07:57,990 --> 00:07:55,810 there's done a lot of calculations of 175 00:08:00,450 --> 00:07:58,000 how big of a hole was in the Titanic so 176 00:08:02,690 --> 00:08:00,460 that it would sink in only 160 minutes 177 00:08:05,130 --> 00:08:02,700 and by the way that's another phenomenal 178 00:08:08,510 --> 00:08:05,140 statistic is that how this ship could 179 00:08:12,150 --> 00:08:08,520 have ever sank that fast when any old 180 00:08:14,310 --> 00:08:12,160 mail steamer of that day took at least 181 00:08:16,110 --> 00:08:14,320 five five-and-a-half hours to sink and 182 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:16,120 that was even with a catastrophic like 183 00:08:21,750 --> 00:08:19,570 collision from another ship so there's a 184 00:08:25,050 --> 00:08:21,760 red flag out of the Titanic go down so 185 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:25,060 fast now it had to have at least a 186 00:08:30,540 --> 00:08:27,490 20-foot square hole this has been 187 00:08:32,820 --> 00:08:30,550 calculated by marine architects if it 188 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:32,830 would have needed totally 20 square feet 189 00:08:38,310 --> 00:08:36,370 of hole in order to sink in 160 minutes 190 00:08:42,620 --> 00:08:38,320 so that would mean that each compartment 191 00:08:46,770 --> 00:08:42,630 needed to have four square feet of area 192 00:08:48,270 --> 00:08:46,780 damage to each compartment and they had 193 00:08:50,670 --> 00:08:48,280 to be kind of equal because otherwise 194 00:08:53,940 --> 00:08:50,680 one compartment might not have filled it 195 00:08:55,710 --> 00:08:53,950 fast enough to get that bow down into 196 00:08:57,450 --> 00:08:55,720 the water low enough quickly enough so 197 00:08:59,940 --> 00:08:57,460 that you could you know get the ship to 198 00:09:02,880 --> 00:08:59,950 continue sinking and get her underwater 199 00:09:04,620 --> 00:09:02,890 in 160 minutes 200 00:09:06,420 --> 00:09:04,630 so 201 00:09:10,949 --> 00:09:06,430 we're already starting from a really 202 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:10,959 really difficult story to swallow in the 203 00:09:16,259 --> 00:09:12,250 first place and then we have the 204 00:09:19,110 --> 00:09:16,269 testimony of Charles Lightoller who was 205 00:09:20,699 --> 00:09:19,120 the number one witness as to the Titanic 206 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:20,709 sinking and he even wrote down on a 207 00:09:24,780 --> 00:09:22,930 piece of paper because he watched it 208 00:09:29,069 --> 00:09:24,790 sink and so he wrote it down 209 00:09:32,699 --> 00:09:29,079 slipping majestically straight down 210 00:09:35,309 --> 00:09:32,709 there's no no explosions no breaking no 211 00:09:37,769 --> 00:09:35,319 stern breaking off anything like that 212 00:09:39,660 --> 00:09:37,779 he wrote that down and he presented that 213 00:09:41,699 --> 00:09:39,670 at the British Board of Trade and also 214 00:09:45,150 --> 00:09:41,709 the Senate disaster hearings in the 215 00:09:47,329 --> 00:09:45,160 United States that's what's written into 216 00:09:51,050 --> 00:09:47,339 the final court hearings 217 00:09:53,220 --> 00:09:51,060 so I also found it really odd that in 218 00:09:56,189 --> 00:09:53,230 1997 when they came out with this movie 219 00:09:59,460 --> 00:09:56,199 with a stern breaking off what gave them 220 00:10:01,290 --> 00:09:59,470 the right to totally disregard the 221 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:01,300 results of two hearings that had been 222 00:10:05,730 --> 00:10:03,130 held with Titanic but that's exactly 223 00:10:07,949 --> 00:10:05,740 what they did and they didn't mention a 224 00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:07,959 thing about that they sort of in a way 225 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:10,120 pulled the hood over our ice by starting 226 00:10:16,079 --> 00:10:13,689 the new 1997 movie out on the bottom 227 00:10:18,150 --> 00:10:16,089 like it was some kind of a scientific 228 00:10:19,819 --> 00:10:18,160 documentary you know he would we were 229 00:10:22,499 --> 00:10:19,829 right down with him while they were 230 00:10:24,929 --> 00:10:22,509 looking at all of the wreckage and the 231 00:10:26,249 --> 00:10:24,939 damage and it really impressed me I 232 00:10:27,749 --> 00:10:26,259 thought boy they're really getting to 233 00:10:30,050 --> 00:10:27,759 the bottom of the story here they 234 00:10:33,509 --> 00:10:30,060 brought this old person you know it was 235 00:10:37,379 --> 00:10:33,519 actual survival and they really took us 236 00:10:40,079 --> 00:10:37,389 for a ride but I I'm telling you the 237 00:10:42,420 --> 00:10:40,089 reason they made that movie is because 238 00:10:44,730 --> 00:10:42,430 they found that boat on the bottom in 239 00:10:47,759 --> 00:10:44,740 two pieces and they had to come up with 240 00:10:50,370 --> 00:10:47,769 an explanation because the pieces are 241 00:10:53,460 --> 00:10:50,380 two thousand two hundred and seventy 242 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:53,470 feet apart which means this ship not 243 00:11:00,150 --> 00:10:56,610 only separated into two completely 244 00:11:02,699 --> 00:11:00,160 separate pieces but it did so at the 245 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:02,709 surface because otherwise they could 246 00:11:10,199 --> 00:11:06,250 have never hit the bottom nearly a half 247 00:11:13,049 --> 00:11:10,209 mile apart where they lighted a hmm 248 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:13,059 so interesting man and yeah so I guess 249 00:11:17,460 --> 00:11:15,250 seeing these pieces at the bottom of the 250 00:11:19,199 --> 00:11:17,470 ocean this throws a huge wrench in the 251 00:11:22,379 --> 00:11:19,209 iceberg narrative it couldn't do that 252 00:11:24,990 --> 00:11:22,389 and I guess it suggests some sort of 253 00:11:26,699 --> 00:11:25,000 demolition would you say or somehow just 254 00:11:32,220 --> 00:11:26,709 letting the ship fall apart pre 255 00:11:35,250 --> 00:11:32,230 meditatively well it's interesting you 256 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:35,260 said fall apart because that's exactly 257 00:11:40,230 --> 00:11:36,490 what they're trying to get us to believe 258 00:11:43,019 --> 00:11:40,240 that this ship fell apart and by the way 259 00:11:44,819 --> 00:11:43,029 there's two sister ships to the Titanic 260 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:44,829 there's the Olympic which stayed in 261 00:11:50,009 --> 00:11:48,490 service until 1934 it worked fine then 262 00:11:53,250 --> 00:11:50,019 there's the Britannic which was turned 263 00:11:55,379 --> 00:11:53,260 into a hospital ship and it was sunk I 264 00:11:57,929 --> 00:11:55,389 think before the war was over right 265 00:12:00,929 --> 00:11:57,939 toward the end of the war it was sunk by 266 00:12:04,199 --> 00:12:00,939 the way the botanic watertight doors are 267 00:12:07,170 --> 00:12:04,209 not down I spent a long time trying to 268 00:12:10,379 --> 00:12:07,180 confirm that and since I mentioned that 269 00:12:12,870 --> 00:12:10,389 ad that the Titanic's watertight doors I 270 00:12:15,269 --> 00:12:12,880 have looked everywhere for a picture or 271 00:12:17,819 --> 00:12:15,279 some testimony that those watertight 272 00:12:20,069 --> 00:12:17,829 doors are in fact down and I have been 273 00:12:21,780 --> 00:12:20,079 able to confirm that but I did confirm 274 00:12:23,990 --> 00:12:21,790 that the watertight doors on the 275 00:12:26,639 --> 00:12:24,000 Britannic which was a hospital ship 276 00:12:30,299 --> 00:12:26,649 those doors were never deployed so 277 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:30,309 what's going on here I'm not sure they 278 00:12:34,980 --> 00:12:32,290 like to blow up steam ships because 279 00:12:36,660 --> 00:12:34,990 they're incredibly efficient let me give 280 00:12:39,210 --> 00:12:36,670 you an idea just how efficient they are 281 00:12:40,769 --> 00:12:39,220 this is some recent information I should 282 00:12:42,900 --> 00:12:40,779 have maybe put this right at the front 283 00:12:47,030 --> 00:12:42,910 of my book as to what's going on here 284 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:47,040 but let me explain why the oil industry 285 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:50,410 despises steam power sure it's because 286 00:12:53,639 --> 00:12:51,850 with steam power you could run it off 287 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:53,649 anything that will burn you just need to 288 00:12:57,759 --> 00:12:55,730 boil water 289 00:12:59,619 --> 00:12:57,769 okay you don't need some exotic fuel 290 00:13:01,509 --> 00:12:59,629 that's going to go to a carburetor and 291 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:01,519 be compressed in an engine and not leave 292 00:13:06,429 --> 00:13:03,169 a deposit and you know have all these 293 00:13:07,869 --> 00:13:06,439 properties that they sell us on all you 294 00:13:12,460 --> 00:13:07,879 need is something that will burn well 295 00:13:14,499 --> 00:13:12,470 coal is that substance now coal on a per 296 00:13:17,859 --> 00:13:14,509 pound basis doesn't have as much energy 297 00:13:19,629 --> 00:13:17,869 but on a per litre basis coal has the 298 00:13:22,539 --> 00:13:19,639 same amount of energy per litre as 299 00:13:24,609 --> 00:13:22,549 petroleum so you're really going to a 300 00:13:26,139 --> 00:13:24,619 solid fuel when you go from petroleum to 301 00:13:28,539 --> 00:13:26,149 coal you're actually going to a solid 302 00:13:31,150 --> 00:13:28,549 fuel which in a way it's more advanced 303 00:13:34,419 --> 00:13:31,160 and liquid I know that might sound odd 304 00:13:37,449 --> 00:13:34,429 but you realize how easy it is to handle 305 00:13:39,699 --> 00:13:37,459 coal as opposed to handling toxic liquid 306 00:13:42,099 --> 00:13:39,709 that anytime there's a leak goes into 307 00:13:45,009 --> 00:13:42,109 the ground you know if your spill coal 308 00:13:47,349 --> 00:13:45,019 you scoop it up and no big deal 309 00:13:49,329 --> 00:13:47,359 right I wanted to throw this in here 310 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:49,339 real quick in your book I wrote this 311 00:13:52,900 --> 00:13:51,410 down where you say coal can be mined 312 00:13:54,759 --> 00:13:52,910 straight out of the ground and dumped 313 00:13:56,799 --> 00:13:54,769 into a furnace which produces steam 314 00:13:58,689 --> 00:13:56,809 which runs a turbine which powers an 315 00:14:01,900 --> 00:13:58,699 electrical grid system which propels 316 00:14:04,029 --> 00:14:01,910 cars at 300 miles per hour that get 300 317 00:14:06,220 --> 00:14:04,039 miles per gallon and never has accidents 318 00:14:09,159 --> 00:14:06,230 therefore petroleum derived fuel 319 00:14:11,769 --> 00:14:09,169 represents no progress at all beyond 320 00:14:13,599 --> 00:14:11,779 coal fuel and that's an important point 321 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:13,609 because we're propagandized so heavily 322 00:14:20,139 --> 00:14:16,569 to think coal is dirty unsafe 323 00:14:22,059 --> 00:14:20,149 rudimentary and that seems to be heavy 324 00:14:24,970 --> 00:14:22,069 manipulation from the oil industry to a 325 00:14:29,109 --> 00:14:24,980 degree wouldn't you say absolutely 326 00:14:32,409 --> 00:14:29,119 absolutely so here's what I I was trying 327 00:14:35,409 --> 00:14:32,419 well how efficient were these ships well 328 00:14:40,359 --> 00:14:35,419 the Titanic used about 600 tons per day 329 00:14:42,460 --> 00:14:40,369 of coal 600 tons wow it sounds enormous 330 00:14:46,540 --> 00:14:42,470 okay 331 00:14:50,770 --> 00:14:46,550 it took five days to go from Ireland to 332 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:50,780 New York five days time 600 times a day 333 00:14:56,610 --> 00:14:54,170 would be 3,000 tons of coal right and if 334 00:14:59,500 --> 00:14:56,620 the Titanic hauled 3,000 passengers 335 00:15:02,290 --> 00:14:59,510 divided that into the coal you'd have 336 00:15:06,460 --> 00:15:02,300 each passenger requiring a ton of coal 337 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:06,470 to get from Ireland or from say England 338 00:15:11,980 --> 00:15:09,290 to New York are you with me I'm with you 339 00:15:15,550 --> 00:15:11,990 one ton of coal sounds oh man 340 00:15:21,130 --> 00:15:15,560 gosh it sounds like oh well from 1908 to 341 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:21,140 1913 coal was $1 a tonne commercial 342 00:15:25,780 --> 00:15:22,370 price Wow 343 00:15:28,270 --> 00:15:25,790 so you could move a human being with a 344 00:15:33,190 --> 00:15:28,280 cabin and steam heat and eating lobster 345 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:33,200 and drinking cappuccino at 22 knots in 346 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:35,450 total safety and that's what really this 347 00:15:39,460 --> 00:15:37,310 book is all about we were totally safe 348 00:15:41,410 --> 00:15:39,470 but they convinced us we were not safe 349 00:15:42,820 --> 00:15:41,420 and that's part of where it comes in to 350 00:15:45,580 --> 00:15:42,830 the Hindenburg where they got us to go 351 00:15:47,830 --> 00:15:45,590 into this flimsy aviation industry but 352 00:15:50,890 --> 00:15:47,840 these coal ships they're just 353 00:15:52,780 --> 00:15:50,900 engineering marvels because you could 354 00:15:55,410 --> 00:15:52,790 move a person across the ocean for a 355 00:16:02,580 --> 00:16:00,650 you can see why oil big oil hates steam 356 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:02,590 mm-hmm 357 00:16:07,410 --> 00:16:04,930 and to get into the point you just made 358 00:16:09,780 --> 00:16:07,420 a little further you do say never forget 359 00:16:12,570 --> 00:16:09,790 the Titanic went down at the dawn of 360 00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:12,580 aviation travel her publicized failure 361 00:16:17,010 --> 00:16:14,560 impacted future developments of 362 00:16:20,010 --> 00:16:17,020 transportation mechanisms for decades 363 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:20,020 afterwards tell us a bit more about how 364 00:16:26,079 --> 00:16:21,370 important it is for people to really 365 00:16:27,999 --> 00:16:26,089 understand this context well 366 00:16:30,309 --> 00:16:28,009 this is where it gets hard to explain 367 00:16:33,460 --> 00:16:30,319 because you know the coal ship didn't 368 00:16:35,949 --> 00:16:33,470 just disappear overnight but if you look 369 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:35,959 at it today if you look at what ships 370 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:37,930 were powered by today you'd absolutely 371 00:16:42,819 --> 00:16:40,490 be floored because they've gone back to 372 00:16:45,340 --> 00:16:42,829 reciprocating engines I am not kidding 373 00:16:49,989 --> 00:16:45,350 it they've gone back to where we're 374 00:16:51,460 --> 00:16:49,999 using piston engines they've got you can 375 00:16:52,989 --> 00:16:51,470 look at these things they're so proud of 376 00:16:55,059 --> 00:16:52,999 them they're one hundred ten thousand 377 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:55,069 horsepower fourteen cylinders the 378 00:17:00,579 --> 00:16:57,410 cylinders are six feet in diameter and 379 00:17:05,549 --> 00:17:00,589 have like a 10 foot stroke you know with 380 00:17:09,549 --> 00:17:05,559 the engine weighs she's something like 381 00:17:12,279 --> 00:17:09,559 2,000 tons they're just gigantic engines 382 00:17:15,669 --> 00:17:12,289 and they they have very sophisticated 383 00:17:18,100 --> 00:17:15,679 fuel systems on them you know so they're 384 00:17:21,130 --> 00:17:18,110 about one or two percent more efficient 385 00:17:22,630 --> 00:17:21,140 than a diesel engine from 1920 they are 386 00:17:25,149 --> 00:17:22,640 a little more efficient than a diesel 387 00:17:26,889 --> 00:17:25,159 engine from that era but the fuel is so 388 00:17:29,789 --> 00:17:26,899 much more expensive than coal 389 00:17:32,590 --> 00:17:29,799 yeah it just doesn't make any difference 390 00:17:34,690 --> 00:17:32,600 so most most ships today are either 391 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:34,700 running off like heavy fuel oil or 392 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:37,850 they're running off of liquefied natural 393 00:17:43,389 --> 00:17:40,370 gas that's another one they're using 394 00:17:46,450 --> 00:17:43,399 because that's a little bit cheaper than 395 00:17:48,750 --> 00:17:46,460 running on fuel oil but there's almost 396 00:17:52,750 --> 00:17:48,760 no ships out there running on coal and 397 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:52,760 that's that's really really sad because 398 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:54,770 you know when you burn coal at sea you 399 00:17:58,149 --> 00:17:56,570 know where that Ash it just is going to 400 00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:58,159 land on the water and it's going to sink 401 00:18:01,539 --> 00:17:59,360 to the bottom and it's not going to 402 00:18:04,029 --> 00:18:01,549 cause any kind of an environmental 403 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:04,039 hazard really at all that's where it 404 00:18:08,380 --> 00:18:05,690 should be burning coal is out there on 405 00:18:11,639 --> 00:18:08,390 the open ocean and to have gone back to 406 00:18:14,110 --> 00:18:11,649 where we're running on this expensive 407 00:18:16,870 --> 00:18:14,120 petroleum product and you know the 408 00:18:20,139 --> 00:18:16,880 Indians are very sophisticated but it's 409 00:18:22,269 --> 00:18:20,149 just the same design and they're not 410 00:18:23,830 --> 00:18:22,279 efficient overall they're not efficient 411 00:18:27,669 --> 00:18:23,840 at all 412 00:18:30,850 --> 00:18:27,679 steam engine gets four strokes of power 413 00:18:32,890 --> 00:18:30,860 for every one stroke of a combustion 414 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:32,900 type engine that's a four-stroke engine 415 00:18:38,140 --> 00:18:35,210 it will only fire every other stroke 416 00:18:40,510 --> 00:18:38,150 whereas a steam engine its firing every 417 00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:40,520 stroke not firing it's it's the pressure 418 00:18:46,210 --> 00:18:42,799 right that's also pressurized on both 419 00:18:47,980 --> 00:18:46,220 sides of the piston so literally a one 420 00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:47,990 cylinder steam engine has the same 421 00:18:56,529 --> 00:18:51,140 amount of push as a four cylinder 422 00:18:59,560 --> 00:18:56,539 gasoline engine Wow and you also have 423 00:19:00,909 --> 00:18:59,570 some amazing stats in the book along 424 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:00,919 this line that showed just how much 425 00:19:05,470 --> 00:19:03,049 money they've been raking in and how 426 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:05,480 effective they've been for example you 427 00:19:10,899 --> 00:19:07,490 say let's take a look at the Los Angeles 428 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:10,909 International Airport in 2012 there were 429 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:13,730 roughly 600,000 flights which provided 430 00:19:19,390 --> 00:19:16,970 travel for 63 million passengers if each 431 00:19:22,539 --> 00:19:19,400 flight consumed about half the fuel tank 432 00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:22,549 capacity or 25,000 gallons that would 433 00:19:29,230 --> 00:19:25,760 equate to 15 billion gallons consumed in 434 00:19:31,330 --> 00:19:29,240 2012 that's 15 billion gallons from just 435 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:31,340 one airport and you also note the 436 00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:34,370 average American pays about 5,000 a year 437 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:36,110 in gasoline costs and when you know 438 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:37,730 these numbers you can see how the oil 439 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:40,970 monopoly has been just as important for 440 00:19:45,010 --> 00:19:42,890 them as fractional reserve banking in 441 00:19:47,169 --> 00:19:45,020 terms of extracting wealth from every 442 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:47,179 person in the system and it's just 443 00:19:51,610 --> 00:19:49,970 pretty mind-blowing isn't it well what a 444 00:19:53,649 --> 00:19:51,620 money-making venture and it's got 445 00:19:56,380 --> 00:19:53,659 tentacles that go out into everything 446 00:19:58,060 --> 00:19:56,390 and we wear it as a yoke we wear the 447 00:20:01,600 --> 00:19:58,070 petroleum industry as a yoke of 448 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:01,610 servitude everything we do they make 449 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:02,690 pretty often 450 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:04,730 every time we move somewhere you know 451 00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:07,490 it's even plastics and pharmaceuticals 452 00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:11,120 are oil-based oh they love to use 453 00:20:16,810 --> 00:20:14,240 oil-based components in the 454 00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:16,820 pharmaceuticals anywhere they can and 455 00:20:22,450 --> 00:20:21,049 that includes fluoride amen like to get 456 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:22,460 rid of that and put that in 457 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:24,890 pharmaceuticals so to hop back to the 458 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:27,730 larger story here so you build up this 459 00:20:33,010 --> 00:20:30,890 Titanic ship as a modern marvel you 460 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:33,020 think it in dramatic fashion use the 461 00:20:36,970 --> 00:20:35,330 media to maximize the trauma and drill 462 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:36,980 into people's heads how terrible a 463 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:37,810 disaster 464 00:20:41,010 --> 00:20:39,130 was and steer them into the more 465 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:41,020 profitable modes of transportation and 466 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:43,930 this brings us to the Hindenburg because 467 00:20:48,180 --> 00:20:46,330 it's a very similar story it turns out 468 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:48,190 but I think people know far less about 469 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:50,770 it and about the use of these retired 470 00:20:54,510 --> 00:20:52,570 airships in general it's a pretty 471 00:20:57,900 --> 00:20:54,520 fascinating chapter what can you tell us 472 00:21:01,680 --> 00:20:57,910 about the hydrogen airships at the time 473 00:21:02,850 --> 00:21:01,690 and how they were being used well thanks 474 00:21:04,380 --> 00:21:02,860 I can tell you a lot 475 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:04,390 most people know very little about 476 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:06,610 airships because they want to keep them 477 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:10,330 a secret what we see today as an airship 478 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:13,330 is kind of an inflated balloon it's 479 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:16,690 nothing like what an airship was during 480 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:18,970 the golden era of the Graf Zeppelin 481 00:21:25,580 --> 00:21:21,850 which went into service in 1928 and did 482 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:25,590 regular transatlantic service from 483 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:28,810 Frederikshavn to Rio de Janeiro's you're 484 00:21:36,990 --> 00:21:31,930 living in Germany in 1928 you could take 485 00:21:38,670 --> 00:21:37,000 a trip to Rio and you'll be flying 500 486 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:38,680 feet off the ground and watching whales 487 00:21:45,210 --> 00:21:42,250 and dolphins and the experience was so 488 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:45,220 pleasurable you know you had a table to 489 00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:48,490 eat at you had a cabin to rest in and it 490 00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:51,070 was just wonderful experience and it's a 491 00:21:56,340 --> 00:21:53,470 wonderful form of travel and it totally 492 00:21:58,100 --> 00:21:56,350 gets us out of the ocean it gets us up 493 00:22:01,530 --> 00:21:58,110 into the air where we don't have 494 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:01,540 seasickness and such worry of you know 495 00:22:07,650 --> 00:22:03,490 hitting reefs and things like that 496 00:22:10,290 --> 00:22:07,660 so it's really a very efficient form of 497 00:22:12,690 --> 00:22:10,300 transportation because it did utilize a 498 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:12,700 form of anti-gravity and that's what 499 00:22:18,990 --> 00:22:14,410 people don't realize what was going on 500 00:22:21,450 --> 00:22:19,000 here is that this device did not have to 501 00:22:26,820 --> 00:22:21,460 lift itself you know it's total weight 502 00:22:29,250 --> 00:22:26,830 was 500 thousand plus pounds to get that 503 00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:29,260 500 feet in the air all you had to do is 504 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:32,110 release the mooring line okay and it's 505 00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:34,450 going up and that's how these started 506 00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:36,880 out they release the mooring line they 507 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:39,370 let the ship ascend 500 feet and they 508 00:22:44,730 --> 00:22:42,050 started the engine and off they went 509 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:44,740 so all you're doing is pushing a tube a 510 00:22:48,970 --> 00:22:47,090 streamline tube through the air you know 511 00:22:51,490 --> 00:22:48,980 you don't have to use any power to keep 512 00:22:54,190 --> 00:22:51,500 it a lot you're just pushing it and so 513 00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:54,200 these were extremely efficient and not 514 00:23:02,410 --> 00:22:56,720 only that but the Hindenburg had diesel 515 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:02,420 engines now diesel engines you notice 516 00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:04,010 that we don't have them in very many of 517 00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:06,110 our cars today we have mostly gasoline 518 00:23:11,290 --> 00:23:08,960 engines even like the Prius which should 519 00:23:13,540 --> 00:23:11,300 be as a super efficiency you know hybrid 520 00:23:15,970 --> 00:23:13,550 supposedly they don't even put a diesel 521 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:15,980 in that now I might add that the Prius 522 00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:18,290 won't even outperform a European 523 00:23:24,370 --> 00:23:20,480 diesel-powered car sorry for all you 524 00:23:27,370 --> 00:23:24,380 Prius owners but it is very easy to make 525 00:23:28,990 --> 00:23:27,380 a diesel engine twice as efficient as a 526 00:23:30,490 --> 00:23:29,000 gasoline engine you know it starts 527 00:23:33,430 --> 00:23:30,500 because the compression is more than 528 00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:33,440 double and it also is an engine that can 529 00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:36,080 run it can run lean which you have to 530 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:38,960 always run gasoline rich that's a whole 531 00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:42,890 problem gasoline so where was I we're 532 00:23:46,810 --> 00:23:45,200 getting into fuel consumption with the 533 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:46,820 Hindenburg the fact that was 534 00:23:56,430 --> 00:23:52,370 diesel-powered it consumed 200 gallons 535 00:24:00,910 --> 00:23:56,440 per hour this five hundred thousand 536 00:24:03,580 --> 00:24:00,920 pound aircraft only consumed 200 gallons 537 00:24:06,580 --> 00:24:03,590 per hour it could reach New York with 538 00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:06,590 only going to like 10,000 gallons of 539 00:24:11,050 --> 00:24:08,960 fuel which was just a fraction of its 540 00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:11,060 payload would you look at transportation 541 00:24:16,750 --> 00:24:14,000 today the existing fixed-wing jet 542 00:24:20,140 --> 00:24:16,760 powered transportation system they're 543 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:20,150 always hauling about five six seven 544 00:24:24,490 --> 00:24:22,610 times more weight and fuel than they are 545 00:24:27,570 --> 00:24:24,500 cargo because they're losing all the 546 00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:27,580 weight as they reach their destination 547 00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:33,520 but the existing jet powered system is 548 00:24:39,940 --> 00:24:37,520 extremely inefficient compared to what 549 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:39,950 the inter bird was and the graphs up and 550 00:24:42,460 --> 00:24:40,310 down 551 00:24:44,620 --> 00:24:42,470 Graf Zeppelin had nine years of 552 00:24:48,190 --> 00:24:44,630 trouble-free service nobody who has ever 553 00:24:51,550 --> 00:24:48,200 hurt there was no accidents and it 554 00:24:53,860 --> 00:24:51,560 logged over 18 million miles of service 555 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:53,870 the Hindenburg was in service for one 556 00:24:59,740 --> 00:24:55,970 year prior to nineteen 557 00:25:02,759 --> 00:24:59,750 seven when it was burned and it had 558 00:25:06,430 --> 00:25:02,769 thirty four successful transatlantic 559 00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:06,440 crossings in 1936 and it was like a 560 00:25:12,009 --> 00:25:10,159 one-off prototype and it was put into 561 00:25:14,350 --> 00:25:12,019 service after just a couple of pest 562 00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:14,360 trials and it went on to make 34 563 00:25:21,340 --> 00:25:17,600 transatlantic crossings without incident 564 00:25:25,230 --> 00:25:21,350 so I mean it was a it was a wonderfully 565 00:25:28,029 --> 00:25:25,240 engineered aircraft and very and very 566 00:25:29,289 --> 00:25:28,039 fuel-efficient right you say in the book 567 00:25:31,060 --> 00:25:29,299 that the truth about the Hindenburg is 568 00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:31,070 that it was the most fuel-efficient and 569 00:25:35,169 --> 00:25:33,440 luxurious aircraft ever built at the 570 00:25:37,450 --> 00:25:35,179 time capable of flying halfway around 571 00:25:39,789 --> 00:25:37,460 the world without stopping it is so 572 00:25:42,220 --> 00:25:39,799 interesting to hear that I mean how long 573 00:25:45,159 --> 00:25:42,230 did it take how fast did it go it took a 574 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:45,169 couple of days I guess took three days 575 00:25:52,820 --> 00:25:49,250 to get from England so it shortened that 576 00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:52,830 translate across into three days 577 00:25:58,130 --> 00:25:54,720 no I'm sorry I'm sorry it shortened it 578 00:26:02,750 --> 00:25:58,140 to 50 hours okay the the fastest 579 00:26:05,299 --> 00:26:02,760 steamship was the USS United States and 580 00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:05,309 it it eventually got down to three and a 581 00:26:09,980 --> 00:26:07,769 half days they were doing about 30 582 00:26:12,740 --> 00:26:09,990 something knots people listening might 583 00:26:15,620 --> 00:26:12,750 think well this sounds alright I mean 584 00:26:17,740 --> 00:26:15,630 but it is still much slower but you even 585 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:17,750 tie in the fact that these 586 00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:20,490 industrialists who kind of run the 587 00:26:24,620 --> 00:26:22,440 working man's world I mean when they 588 00:26:26,180 --> 00:26:24,630 only give you two weeks a year for 589 00:26:28,370 --> 00:26:26,190 vacation you need to get somewhere 590 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:28,380 quickly but back in this day I mean 591 00:26:32,539 --> 00:26:30,210 people could have a more luxurious 592 00:26:35,060 --> 00:26:32,549 vacation and get in one of these 593 00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:35,070 airships and have a little sky cruise of 594 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:37,529 with great scenery with big cabins right 595 00:26:41,779 --> 00:26:39,450 it's you know a lot more luxurious 596 00:26:43,789 --> 00:26:41,789 experience rather than jamming people in 597 00:26:46,279 --> 00:26:43,799 like sardines Oto's throwing them across 598 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:46,289 total but it's just it's such a 599 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:47,970 different paradigm than the way we 600 00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:49,710 experience things today or the way we 601 00:26:55,730 --> 00:26:52,559 think about travel in general yeah look 602 00:26:58,159 --> 00:26:55,740 what they've gradually devolved us into 603 00:27:00,560 --> 00:26:58,169 you know to where we sit in these giant 604 00:27:02,779 --> 00:27:00,570 long tubes where everybody has their own 605 00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:02,789 little computer screen and we're all in 606 00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:05,750 isolation whereas before we were all 607 00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:07,679 socializing we're having dinner together 608 00:27:12,379 --> 00:27:09,929 and looking out windows together and 609 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:12,389 having a great time even dancing aboard 610 00:27:16,879 --> 00:27:15,090 the Hindenburg to their piano and we 611 00:27:18,769 --> 00:27:16,889 have a right to live like this we earned 612 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:18,779 this we designed these things and they 613 00:27:24,379 --> 00:27:21,210 were successful designed the Titanic was 614 00:27:26,539 --> 00:27:24,389 a successful design no way in a thousand 615 00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:26,549 collisions with that ship of ever sank 616 00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:29,039 from hitting an iceberg I mean I just as 617 00:27:34,250 --> 00:27:31,440 know what that thing was built so solid 618 00:27:36,500 --> 00:27:34,260 and all of those wonderful factory 619 00:27:39,620 --> 00:27:36,510 workers at the Harlan Wolff shipyard 620 00:27:42,649 --> 00:27:39,630 that set that ship off and we're told 621 00:27:44,899 --> 00:27:42,659 that all your ship just came apart all 622 00:27:47,870 --> 00:27:44,909 those men who were led to believe that 623 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:47,880 somehow this incredible iron ship came 624 00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:50,010 apart at sea they were so deceived and 625 00:27:56,269 --> 00:27:52,529 that the whole world was deceived over 626 00:28:00,500 --> 00:27:56,279 this look we were good engineers that 627 00:28:02,810 --> 00:28:00,510 ship was a very very well designed ship 628 00:28:06,140 --> 00:28:02,820 they ended up convincing us we were 629 00:28:10,130 --> 00:28:06,150 trying to leap too far into luxury 630 00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:10,140 it was too big it was too good and third 631 00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:13,710 class actually had a dining room he had 632 00:28:17,570 --> 00:28:16,080 an entertainment room in third class you 633 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:17,580 could get a room with four people or 634 00:28:22,580 --> 00:28:20,370 with eight people I mean it was just the 635 00:28:24,860 --> 00:28:22,590 most wonderful thing for for third class 636 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:24,870 that ever came along you were totally 637 00:28:31,490 --> 00:28:28,410 safe totally totally safe huh they made 638 00:28:34,370 --> 00:28:31,500 us think that you weren't because this 639 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:34,380 is another kind of strange part but the 640 00:28:40,250 --> 00:28:37,650 part about the rich that were aboard the 641 00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:40,260 Titanic going down with a ship where 642 00:28:46,550 --> 00:28:42,510 they got us to believe that they're 643 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:46,560 every bit as civil as we are and you 644 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:48,450 know they have the same kinds of 645 00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:50,490 feelings about third-class people and 646 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:54,240 they're willing to drowned side-by-side 647 00:28:57,830 --> 00:28:56,130 with them holding hands you know all 648 00:29:01,850 --> 00:28:57,840 right if that's the way it is and that's 649 00:29:05,060 --> 00:29:01,860 not the way it went and that's a reason 650 00:29:08,060 --> 00:29:05,070 why I believe that within five years 651 00:29:11,180 --> 00:29:08,070 there will be a new investigation a 652 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:11,190 complete new Justice Department hearing 653 00:29:17,930 --> 00:29:14,730 on what actually caused the Titanic to 654 00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:17,940 be sunk right because there is so much 655 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:20,880 information now and they put it all in 656 00:29:23,950 --> 00:29:22,690 front of us watch The History Channel 657 00:29:27,410 --> 00:29:23,960 [Music] 658 00:29:30,740 --> 00:29:27,420 2015 where they mapped everything out 659 00:29:33,050 --> 00:29:30,750 you can see every piece it's all there 660 00:29:36,020 --> 00:29:33,060 and it's three miles height and it's 661 00:29:37,730 --> 00:29:36,030 five miles long I don't know if you 662 00:29:40,490 --> 00:29:37,740 looked at those other drawings I showed 663 00:29:44,660 --> 00:29:40,500 you from the wormhole or wormwood site 664 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:44,670 but the center section of the cabins 665 00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:48,530 were blown apart in a line that went in 666 00:29:54,290 --> 00:29:51,120 in other words difference there was a 667 00:29:57,950 --> 00:29:54,300 way to make the parts of the ship goes 668 00:30:00,410 --> 00:29:57,960 sideways not just breaking lengthwise it 669 00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:00,420 also broke the other way those pieces 670 00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:03,840 completely left the ship and a giant 671 00:30:07,940 --> 00:30:06,510 midsection of the ship now how did how 672 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:07,950 do you get the ship to split right down 673 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:11,250 the middle in the mid ship direction you 674 00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:13,890 know about a stern how do you get it to 675 00:30:18,380 --> 00:30:16,320 split along a line right down the middle 676 00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:18,390 of a ship 677 00:30:22,580 --> 00:30:21,120 but that's exactly what they found and 678 00:30:25,550 --> 00:30:22,590 they've documented you could look into 679 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:25,560 drawings it's called a tear diagram and 680 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:28,890 it shows every deck how they were 681 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:31,530 splitted it's just incredible the number 682 00:30:36,110 --> 00:30:33,930 of pieces that came off that ship it's 683 00:30:37,670 --> 00:30:36,120 pretty obvious seems like it parallels 684 00:30:40,010 --> 00:30:37,680 9/11 a little bit where we're led to 685 00:30:42,140 --> 00:30:40,020 believe that a plane flying into one of 686 00:30:44,660 --> 00:30:42,150 these massive skyscrapers was enough to 687 00:30:47,330 --> 00:30:44,670 completely demolish it to the ground 688 00:30:49,550 --> 00:30:47,340 we're told in this case that an iceberg 689 00:30:53,270 --> 00:30:49,560 destroyed this thing when really that's 690 00:30:54,650 --> 00:30:53,280 just not believable right hmm and to 691 00:30:56,510 --> 00:30:54,660 step back to the thing you said about 692 00:30:58,550 --> 00:30:56,520 the passengers and the nobility of the 693 00:31:01,400 --> 00:30:58,560 first-class passenger sacrificing 694 00:31:03,290 --> 00:31:01,410 themselves for the women and children it 695 00:31:05,540 --> 00:31:03,300 turns out that's not the case they 696 00:31:07,460 --> 00:31:05,550 didn't even sound the alarm for third 697 00:31:09,380 --> 00:31:07,470 grade passengers all the first-class 698 00:31:12,290 --> 00:31:09,390 people got the hell out of there before 699 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:12,300 any of the peons got a chance and that 700 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:14,250 really shocked me I've got that out of 701 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:16,890 Alan Coons book on the Titanic disaster 702 00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:20,810 hearings which came out in 1994 and if 703 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:23,360 researchers would start with that book 704 00:31:28,790 --> 00:31:25,770 instead of thinking about rivets and 705 00:31:30,830 --> 00:31:28,800 coal fires and things like that there's 706 00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:30,840 something major wrong when they get to 707 00:31:38,210 --> 00:31:33,600 the part about the Gustav line and this 708 00:31:40,370 --> 00:31:38,220 number one witness admits that the third 709 00:31:43,850 --> 00:31:40,380 class never heard an alarm they would 710 00:31:46,850 --> 00:31:43,860 they never were never given alarm and so 711 00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:46,860 that's pretty shocking 156 women and 712 00:31:51,710 --> 00:31:50,310 children went down supposedly went down 713 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:51,720 that's another story I don't know if you 714 00:31:54,380 --> 00:31:53,490 read that part about the missing bones 715 00:31:56,060 --> 00:31:54,390 yeah 716 00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:56,070 good after that later that was going to 717 00:31:59,810 --> 00:31:57,600 be my next question for you for sure 718 00:32:01,310 --> 00:31:59,820 definitely on the subject tell us about 719 00:32:03,410 --> 00:32:01,320 the fact I mean it is interesting 720 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:03,420 there's been dozens of dives down there 721 00:32:07,070 --> 00:32:05,010 they brought back hundreds of items but 722 00:32:09,290 --> 00:32:07,080 no skeletons have ever been found which 723 00:32:10,850 --> 00:32:09,300 is an element that comes into play with 724 00:32:12,020 --> 00:32:10,860 a lot of researchers who talk about 725 00:32:14,510 --> 00:32:12,030 these things that are considered to be 726 00:32:16,460 --> 00:32:14,520 false flags to induce trauma on the 727 00:32:18,290 --> 00:32:16,470 masses usually through the media or 728 00:32:20,150 --> 00:32:18,300 usually researchers find evidence to 729 00:32:23,060 --> 00:32:20,160 suggest that there really aren't as many 730 00:32:26,180 --> 00:32:23,070 victims in these tragedies as the story 731 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:26,190 wants you to believe and maybe that's an 732 00:32:31,130 --> 00:32:28,130 element here with the Titanic as well 733 00:32:32,330 --> 00:32:31,140 absolutely it is I mean I can give you 734 00:32:35,090 --> 00:32:32,340 one example captain 735 00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:35,100 Smith he was seen after the Titanic went 736 00:32:41,299 --> 00:32:39,049 down he was even in a Life magazine 737 00:32:44,210 --> 00:32:41,309 article you can read the life magazine 738 00:32:44,899 --> 00:32:44,220 article it's called Smitty the missing 739 00:32:47,210 --> 00:32:44,909 captain 740 00:32:52,669 --> 00:32:47,220 they called him Smitty was living around 741 00:32:54,260 --> 00:32:52,679 Philadelphia as this old man who was on 742 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:54,270 the verge of you know I guess was 743 00:32:58,850 --> 00:32:56,730 homeless they called him the old Smitty 744 00:33:01,330 --> 00:32:58,860 so they apparently knew who he was and 745 00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:01,340 he had to he's got a map of the world 746 00:33:07,730 --> 00:33:03,840 tattooed on his back and he had tattoos 747 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:07,740 on a lot a lot of marks okay and they 748 00:33:15,409 --> 00:33:11,250 involved his body so that they could 749 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:15,419 later identify who this stranger was and 750 00:33:20,690 --> 00:33:18,090 so his body is still to this day I'm 751 00:33:23,049 --> 00:33:20,700 involved and it's good code go there you 752 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:23,059 can maybe even get a look at it now why 753 00:33:28,850 --> 00:33:27,210 why would any city and all the stranger 754 00:33:30,169 --> 00:33:28,860 you know since when do they involve a 755 00:33:32,779 --> 00:33:30,179 stranger so that they can hopefully 756 00:33:34,940 --> 00:33:32,789 identify it later right have you ever 757 00:33:37,549 --> 00:33:34,950 heard of that that's very strange and 758 00:33:39,260 --> 00:33:37,559 you also talk about the idea that you 759 00:33:40,669 --> 00:33:39,270 know if there's no skeletons found where 760 00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:40,679 are the people what happened to the 761 00:33:45,260 --> 00:33:42,990 people and you talk about the idea that 762 00:33:47,690 --> 00:33:45,270 they could have been sold into slavery 763 00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:47,700 how likely could that have been at this 764 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:51,600 time period well how much would they 765 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:54,450 have been worse right off the bat a red 766 00:33:59,600 --> 00:33:57,330 flag when you're talking 156 women and 767 00:34:03,680 --> 00:33:59,610 children children are worth a lot of 768 00:34:06,529 --> 00:34:03,690 money you know you know about the the 769 00:34:09,470 --> 00:34:06,539 child slave market that's the dark truth 770 00:34:10,909 --> 00:34:09,480 and then you've got women 771 00:34:13,220 --> 00:34:10,919 that are missing too and then you've got 772 00:34:15,950 --> 00:34:13,230 all these other men who could have 773 00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:15,960 become laborers or slaves it would be 774 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:18,300 absolutely no problem to just say hey 775 00:34:24,649 --> 00:34:20,490 get on this ship we're taking you to New 776 00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:24,659 York get up or you get on board and next 777 00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:25,740 thing you know you're in Africa 778 00:34:31,070 --> 00:34:29,040 somewhere else or Russia right you 779 00:34:34,190 --> 00:34:31,080 mentioned that Russia was big in a slave 780 00:34:36,109 --> 00:34:34,200 trading at that time it was still going 781 00:34:39,230 --> 00:34:36,119 on worldwide that's still going on today 782 00:34:41,629 --> 00:34:39,240 right I mean not worldwide but it was it 783 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:41,639 was still prevalent in a lot of areas in 784 00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:44,010 the world it would have been hard to 785 00:34:50,030 --> 00:34:47,220 find a market and it would have been 786 00:34:51,409 --> 00:34:50,040 some extra cash just like the gold that 787 00:34:54,980 --> 00:34:51,419 was aboard and the diamonds that are 788 00:34:58,310 --> 00:34:54,990 aboard him very hard time finding where 789 00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:58,320 the gold and diamonds went and often 790 00:35:02,450 --> 00:35:00,720 anybody is has gotten that from the 791 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:02,460 Ballard expeditions or any of these 792 00:35:08,450 --> 00:35:04,890 other expeditions has anybody brought up 793 00:35:11,210 --> 00:35:08,460 any gold or diamonds right I would guess 794 00:35:15,170 --> 00:35:11,220 that that was all removed before they 795 00:35:17,300 --> 00:35:15,180 blew the thing up very likely and since 796 00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:17,310 people know quite a bit less about the 797 00:35:22,130 --> 00:35:19,470 Hindenburg story let's get into that a 798 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:22,140 bit more in the first hour here what are 799 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:24,450 some of the elements that make the case 800 00:35:28,670 --> 00:35:26,130 that its destruction was a premeditated 801 00:35:32,660 --> 00:35:28,680 false flag and not the accident that 802 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:32,670 we're told it was well the main thing 803 00:35:38,180 --> 00:35:34,890 that makes it premeditated the fact that 804 00:35:42,410 --> 00:35:38,190 it was a very political instrument of 805 00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:42,420 Germany the Nazi Party they confiscated 806 00:35:47,420 --> 00:35:44,510 the Hindenburg just as it was completed 807 00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:47,430 they confiscated it and they painted the 808 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:49,440 tail fins with the swastikas and they 809 00:35:54,109 --> 00:35:51,090 named it the Hindenburg they named it 810 00:35:56,599 --> 00:35:54,119 after the last Democratic president of 811 00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:56,609 Germany so when the Hindenburg went down 812 00:36:00,200 --> 00:35:58,530 in a ball of flames there was some you 813 00:36:03,340 --> 00:36:00,210 know symbolism yeah there was some 814 00:36:05,660 --> 00:36:03,350 symbolism there with the last Democratic 815 00:36:06,170 --> 00:36:05,670 Chancellor of Germany going down in 816 00:36:10,070 --> 00:36:06,180 flames 817 00:36:11,810 --> 00:36:10,080 there was bomb threats a number of times 818 00:36:14,510 --> 00:36:11,820 on the Graf Zeppelin and there were bomb 819 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:14,520 threats on the Hindenburg as well as a 820 00:36:20,180 --> 00:36:17,010 result they had a number of Secret 821 00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:20,190 Service people on that flight into 822 00:36:26,090 --> 00:36:23,250 Lakehurst New Jersey in 1937 823 00:36:29,690 --> 00:36:26,100 for that very reason to watch out for an 824 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:29,700 act of sabotage and then when it 825 00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:33,450 happened to our surprise the FBI acted 826 00:36:37,070 --> 00:36:35,280 like oh no it wasn't sabotage at all as 827 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:37,080 an engineering failure so they treated 828 00:36:41,330 --> 00:36:39,090 it as an engineering failure and they 829 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:41,340 made only a very weak attempt to find 830 00:36:48,530 --> 00:36:45,930 out to investigate those who would have 831 00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:48,540 maybe taken part in a sabotage they 832 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:50,880 never did treat it as as a possibility 833 00:36:58,070 --> 00:36:55,290 and even the Germans didn't treat it as 834 00:37:00,980 --> 00:36:58,080 sabotage now the ones who are on the 835 00:37:04,730 --> 00:37:00,990 Hindenburg Rosenthal who went down with 836 00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:04,740 it and he claimed that there's no other 837 00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:07,110 way this went down without sabotage and 838 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:10,740 the lead engineer felt the same way but 839 00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:13,170 when they got back to Germany and Hitler 840 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:17,910 and Goering said no we're just going to 841 00:37:23,780 --> 00:37:20,250 just write this off as a accident 842 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:23,790 spark went up the line went up a hint 843 00:37:29,930 --> 00:37:26,570 line because it got some water on it and 844 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:29,940 it went up and ignited the Hindenburg on 845 00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:33,450 fire just completely impossible a HAMP 846 00:37:38,810 --> 00:37:36,960 line is wet at just one end I mean give 847 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:38,820 me a break that's going to conduct 848 00:37:43,490 --> 00:37:40,650 electricity and even if it went up the 849 00:37:45,860 --> 00:37:43,500 line how's it going to spark where the 850 00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:45,870 hole is so you'd have to have the hole 851 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:49,260 if it was a hole it was right next to 852 00:37:54,050 --> 00:37:51,330 where the line was attached and ship you 853 00:37:56,990 --> 00:37:54,060 know that's another thing we never got 854 00:37:59,810 --> 00:37:57,000 to see the first couple seconds of the 855 00:38:03,200 --> 00:37:59,820 footage I mentioned in there that they 856 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:03,210 had 22 professional photographers five 857 00:38:08,990 --> 00:38:06,810 of them had newsreel cameras but none of 858 00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:09,000 them managed to get a picture of the 859 00:38:13,220 --> 00:38:11,550 first three seconds of when it was 860 00:38:16,130 --> 00:38:13,230 actually struck by whatever it was 861 00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:16,140 struck by or maybe there was a bomb set 862 00:38:22,910 --> 00:38:19,110 off or something I believe that it was 863 00:38:26,660 --> 00:38:22,920 according to James Perl off his article 864 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:26,670 about the bird and his crew of men that 865 00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:28,970 hid behind bushes and fired one 866 00:38:34,190 --> 00:38:32,070 incendiary shell from a rifle into the 867 00:38:36,380 --> 00:38:34,200 rear end of it that's what they 868 00:38:37,150 --> 00:38:36,390 testified to doing and I believe that is 869 00:38:38,890 --> 00:38:37,160 the correct 870 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:38,900 Woori they were just simply behind the 871 00:38:45,010 --> 00:38:42,170 bushes as far as the way the press 872 00:38:46,750 --> 00:38:45,020 presented it that was way overdone they 873 00:38:49,029 --> 00:38:46,760 had weighed more photographers there 874 00:38:52,450 --> 00:38:49,039 than they needed there's no doubt they 875 00:38:54,819 --> 00:38:52,460 edited out all of the footage I mean for 876 00:38:56,770 --> 00:38:54,829 22 professional photographers to miss 877 00:38:58,329 --> 00:38:56,780 the shot you know where where it 878 00:39:00,309 --> 00:38:58,339 actually started burning that's that's 879 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:00,319 the worst photographic blunder of all 880 00:39:03,339 --> 00:39:00,890 time 881 00:39:05,620 --> 00:39:03,349 I can't imagine those guys screwing up 882 00:39:08,349 --> 00:39:05,630 worse than that so their material was 883 00:39:10,180 --> 00:39:08,359 edited they obviously got the pictures 884 00:39:14,230 --> 00:39:10,190 that we needed so we can see where the 885 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:14,240 fire started at the stern but that was 886 00:39:20,730 --> 00:39:17,690 all edited out and then they I mentioned 887 00:39:23,740 --> 00:39:20,740 in there that the Herbert Morrison taped 888 00:39:25,390 --> 00:39:23,750 audio transcript of the Hindenburg 889 00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:25,400 burning and everybody remembered so well 890 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:29,390 that was taped and that was spliced in 891 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:33,530 to the pictures later into the movie 892 00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:36,170 film later so it was it was not kind 893 00:39:40,839 --> 00:39:39,049 sequence since it was spliced together 894 00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:40,849 it didn't all happen together so we 895 00:39:46,420 --> 00:39:43,849 weren't able to really scrutinize his 896 00:39:48,549 --> 00:39:46,430 actual words with the actual event the 897 00:39:50,410 --> 00:39:48,559 way it really happened what we got is 898 00:39:53,289 --> 00:39:50,420 the way they wanted us to see it happen 899 00:39:56,430 --> 00:39:53,299 a hydrogen is not that easy to get to 900 00:39:59,980 --> 00:39:56,440 burn I poke people out there the what 901 00:40:03,940 --> 00:39:59,990 but hydrogen does not burn without 902 00:40:06,490 --> 00:40:03,950 oxygen and h2o so what does that mean 903 00:40:07,779 --> 00:40:06,500 you need one part oxygen is two parts 904 00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:07,789 hydrogen because that's what it's going 905 00:40:11,620 --> 00:40:09,440 to go into it's going to go into water 906 00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:11,630 that's a reaction anywhere on the planet 907 00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:14,510 when hydrogen combust it's got to have 908 00:40:20,380 --> 00:40:16,910 one part oxygen to two parts hydrogen 909 00:40:22,750 --> 00:40:20,390 and there's just no way you can get 910 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:22,760 something that's inside of the pure 911 00:40:27,370 --> 00:40:25,010 hydrogen gas bag to explode because you 912 00:40:28,750 --> 00:40:27,380 can't get air into okay that was going 913 00:40:30,549 --> 00:40:28,760 to be one of the questions I had for you 914 00:40:32,799 --> 00:40:30,559 because I was a little confused by that 915 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:32,809 point that it doesn't burn without 916 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:34,490 oxygen and I was going to say well what 917 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:36,770 about the oxygen and the air but it's a 918 00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:40,610 it's a closed compartment right 919 00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:43,760 well the oxygen in the air did allow the 920 00:40:49,630 --> 00:40:47,030 Hindenburg to burn it did burn once they 921 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:49,640 fired an incendiary shell through it and 922 00:40:55,810 --> 00:40:52,850 got it burning then the bag is going to 923 00:40:59,590 --> 00:40:55,820 release the hydrogen into the air and it 924 00:41:01,450 --> 00:40:59,600 just started burning big-time and the 925 00:41:03,730 --> 00:41:01,460 thing that is really notable about 926 00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:03,740 hydrogen what a wonderful fuel it is is 927 00:41:09,490 --> 00:41:07,280 that it's a gas not a liquid it didn't 928 00:41:11,830 --> 00:41:09,500 fall down on the people it went straight 929 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:11,840 up high all the heat from the Hindenburg 930 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:16,130 went straight up and only 36 people were 931 00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:20,690 lost on the Hindenburg now 36 people 932 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:22,160 that's a lot of people but you know we 933 00:41:26,170 --> 00:41:23,930 have airliners today that go down with 934 00:41:28,260 --> 00:41:26,180 hundreds of people right and they don't 935 00:41:31,180 --> 00:41:28,270 cancel the design of the airliner 936 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:31,190 exactly and we're still using them with 937 00:41:35,260 --> 00:41:33,770 volatile fuel when they crash they still 938 00:41:37,210 --> 00:41:35,270 erupt into a ball of flames and 939 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:37,220 everybody is burned beyond recognition 940 00:41:42,490 --> 00:41:40,370 we still use it yeah I thought that was 941 00:41:45,340 --> 00:41:42,500 so interesting because the Hindenburg it 942 00:41:47,860 --> 00:41:45,350 looks epic in scale and the visuals of 943 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:47,870 it are very trauma inducing but you're 944 00:41:54,370 --> 00:41:50,570 right the gas goes up and the basket 945 00:41:56,830 --> 00:41:54,380 underneath was not as affected as you 946 00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:56,840 know like a plane crash would be and I 947 00:42:01,660 --> 00:41:58,400 just thought that was so interesting you 948 00:42:03,490 --> 00:42:01,670 also note that when a typical fire were 949 00:42:05,890 --> 00:42:03,500 to break out on one of these airships 950 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:05,900 they could stop the thing in the air put 951 00:42:12,310 --> 00:42:08,690 it out float and then you know continue 952 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:12,320 going whereas a plane if a fire breaks 953 00:42:16,570 --> 00:42:14,450 out it's got a land and that's a very 954 00:42:18,250 --> 00:42:16,580 dangerous procedure to land and go back 955 00:42:20,650 --> 00:42:18,260 up in the air but the media has 956 00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:20,660 downplayed the dangers of the only 957 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:22,550 alternative they'll give us and then 958 00:42:27,460 --> 00:42:24,530 taken these other things that were much 959 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:27,470 safer and over inflated how dangerous 960 00:42:33,070 --> 00:42:29,450 they were and that's one of the real 961 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:33,080 tragedies here totally totally that's 962 00:42:37,660 --> 00:42:36,050 exactly what they've done and it's not 963 00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:37,670 so much that 964 00:42:43,690 --> 00:42:40,910 if you get a fire while you're a loft 965 00:42:46,289 --> 00:42:43,700 that that's that's really dangerous okay 966 00:42:48,430 --> 00:42:46,299 right but if you have an engine failure 967 00:42:50,859 --> 00:42:48,440 with a dirigible 968 00:42:52,780 --> 00:42:50,869 alright lighter than gravity aircraft do 969 00:42:55,450 --> 00:42:52,790 you have an engine failure coal engine 970 00:42:58,030 --> 00:42:55,460 failure you're still safe you're just 971 00:42:59,740 --> 00:42:58,040 floating it's just like you're a ship at 972 00:43:03,130 --> 00:42:59,750 sea and your engine quits you run out of 973 00:43:04,809 --> 00:43:03,140 fuel you're floating they don't want us 974 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:04,819 to have a system like that they want us 975 00:43:09,359 --> 00:43:06,410 to have a system where you run out of 976 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:09,369 fuel you're going down you know 977 00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:12,170 psychologically we feel so dependent on 978 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:16,250 fuel and aren't we though boy if the jet 979 00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:18,410 ever runs out of fuel what an emergency 980 00:43:22,510 --> 00:43:21,200 right so you know it's kind of a system 981 00:43:26,740 --> 00:43:22,520 that doesn't make a lot of sense 982 00:43:29,109 --> 00:43:26,750 alongside these lighter-than-air and 983 00:43:32,980 --> 00:43:29,119 anti-gravity craft that are just 984 00:43:34,420 --> 00:43:32,990 infinitely so much safer and this is 985 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:34,430 another thing I wanted to try to get 986 00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:36,650 into our throw into the first hour 987 00:43:40,930 --> 00:43:38,480 before we get deeper to the story but we 988 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:40,940 have the major cliff notes here and to 989 00:43:45,309 --> 00:43:43,010 read another excerpt that gets into 990 00:43:46,990 --> 00:43:45,319 other alternatives you write both of 991 00:43:48,220 --> 00:43:47,000 these disasters have the effect of 992 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:48,230 steering the public into a 993 00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:49,970 transportation system that would require 994 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:52,640 and consume expensive process petroleum 995 00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:54,410 fuels in place of cheaper alternatives 996 00:43:58,270 --> 00:43:56,480 making these negative trends look 997 00:44:00,460 --> 00:43:58,280 positive to the public was the standard 998 00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,470 mode of operation during the era another 999 00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:02,720 mind game we have fallen for few people 1000 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:04,730 can even conjure in their minds that 1001 00:44:09,250 --> 00:44:06,650 there was actually a 20 year period 1002 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:09,260 beginning in 1885 where the best 1003 00:44:13,210 --> 00:44:10,970 vehicles on the road were electric 1004 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:13,220 powered the gasoline engine at that 1005 00:44:17,380 --> 00:44:15,530 stage was a piece of unreliable noisy 1006 00:44:19,569 --> 00:44:17,390 junk compared to the smooth riding Riker 1007 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:19,579 electric vehicle that was the preferred 1008 00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:22,130 car of the rich and steam powered 1009 00:44:26,380 --> 00:44:23,839 engines from ships and trains were 1010 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:26,390 scaled down such that by 1905 the 1011 00:44:31,180 --> 00:44:28,210 Stanley Steamer was a reliable 1012 00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:31,190 mass-produced car early Model T's were 1013 00:44:34,539 --> 00:44:32,569 also equipped to burn alcohol the 1014 00:44:36,549 --> 00:44:34,549 standard fuel I find these sorts of 1015 00:44:38,380 --> 00:44:36,559 things really mind-blowing because like 1016 00:44:40,750 --> 00:44:38,390 you say we have this one idea drilled 1017 00:44:43,150 --> 00:44:40,760 into our heads can you tell us any more 1018 00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:43,160 about early vehicles and the options we 1019 00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:44,960 had at the time before the oil monopoly 1020 00:44:51,390 --> 00:44:50,329 was really secured oh yeah yeah towards 1021 00:44:54,210 --> 00:44:51,400 the end of the book you know 1022 00:44:56,339 --> 00:44:54,220 Nikola Tesla which you know the most 1023 00:44:58,349 --> 00:44:56,349 benevolent engineer that's probably ever 1024 00:45:01,049 --> 00:44:58,359 been on this planet and he was shut down 1025 00:45:03,569 --> 00:45:01,059 by JP Morgan he had a system of 1026 00:45:06,269 --> 00:45:03,579 transportation that was lightyears ahead 1027 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:06,279 and we might be seeing that in the next 1028 00:45:11,630 --> 00:45:08,770 couple of years by the way because we 1029 00:45:14,460 --> 00:45:11,640 are getting ready for a transportation 1030 00:45:17,549 --> 00:45:14,470 revelation in this country that's why 1031 00:45:20,010 --> 00:45:17,559 I'm releasing this material now I think 1032 00:45:22,620 --> 00:45:20,020 it's a key part of we need to wake up 1033 00:45:25,260 --> 00:45:22,630 make sure we don't rebuild the same 1034 00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:25,270 system that we have where we use asphalt 1035 00:45:29,940 --> 00:45:27,760 roads rubber tires you know it's just 1036 00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:29,950 every time we turn around we're 1037 00:45:35,730 --> 00:45:33,760 bolstering the petroleum industry and we 1038 00:45:38,609 --> 00:45:35,740 got to stop using roads that degrade 1039 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:38,619 from sunlight and asphalt is the worst 1040 00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:39,970 material that could have ever come up 1041 00:45:45,059 --> 00:45:42,609 with the roads it won't even stand up to 1042 00:45:47,279 --> 00:45:45,069 sunlight so as soon as it's laid down 1043 00:45:49,620 --> 00:45:47,289 you've already established a renewal 1044 00:45:51,930 --> 00:45:49,630 clause and evergreen clause with the oil 1045 00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:51,940 industry for infinite numbers of topping 1046 00:45:57,809 --> 00:45:54,910 REE topping resurfacing you know it's 1047 00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:57,819 just constant windfall to come toward 1048 00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:01,359 the oil industry right I love that 1049 00:46:05,490 --> 00:46:03,849 element to that it has a by-product 1050 00:46:07,470 --> 00:46:05,500 problem and that by-product is asphalt 1051 00:46:09,420 --> 00:46:07,480 tar and that's why they you have to make 1052 00:46:12,180 --> 00:46:09,430 the roads they use it for rubber tires 1053 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:12,190 they use it for roofing shingles not 1054 00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:14,170 that it's the best thing for these these 1055 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:16,329 things but it's just the only option 1056 00:46:22,010 --> 00:46:18,490 we're allowed no other way to get rid of 1057 00:46:24,059 --> 00:46:22,020 it you know no petroleum product is 1058 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:24,069 qualified to be thrown away in a 1059 00:46:28,829 --> 00:46:26,410 landfill if you're going to throw away 1060 00:46:31,559 --> 00:46:28,839 crude oil as it comes out of the ground 1061 00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:31,569 it's got to go to a toxic waste landfill 1062 00:46:36,779 --> 00:46:34,000 which of course no industry is stupid 1063 00:46:38,279 --> 00:46:36,789 enough to try to afford but they turn 1064 00:46:40,019 --> 00:46:38,289 around and they use these toxic 1065 00:46:42,029 --> 00:46:40,029 materials and they make tires that wear 1066 00:46:42,750 --> 00:46:42,039 everywhere on the planet surface that's 1067 00:46:45,059 --> 00:46:42,760 okay 1068 00:46:46,650 --> 00:46:45,069 they make fuels out of them that's 1069 00:46:50,579 --> 00:46:46,660 burned everywhere on the planet surface 1070 00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:50,589 that's okay but don't throw it away to 1071 00:46:56,490 --> 00:46:54,609 landfill because the EPA will give you a 1072 00:46:58,769 --> 00:46:56,500 big hefty fine you can't do that it's a 1073 00:47:01,500 --> 00:46:58,779 toxic material so we're spreading 1074 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:01,510 toxicity everywhere and that's why we 1075 00:47:05,860 --> 00:47:03,770 have to get out from under this 1076 00:47:08,110 --> 00:47:05,870 I think I also point out in the book 1077 00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:08,120 that there is a way for us to get out of 1078 00:47:13,810 --> 00:47:10,400 it overnight and that's just to convert 1079 00:47:16,810 --> 00:47:13,820 all of our petroleum cars into alcohol 1080 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:16,820 powered cars because the oil industry 1081 00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:19,370 was one additional component can convert 1082 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:21,440 their gasoline into methanol 1083 00:47:26,980 --> 00:47:25,010 they just won't do it they won't do it 1084 00:47:30,340 --> 00:47:26,990 because they get too much yield when you 1085 00:47:32,290 --> 00:47:30,350 combine gasoline with water for the 1086 00:47:36,070 --> 00:47:32,300 necessary hydrogen and oxygen in order 1087 00:47:39,340 --> 00:47:36,080 to make the hydrocarbon methanol 1088 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:39,350 molecule you end up with four and a half 1089 00:47:44,470 --> 00:47:41,690 times the amount of gasoline we started 1090 00:47:47,110 --> 00:47:44,480 with you know in other words one part 1091 00:47:49,090 --> 00:47:47,120 gasoline two parts water about 900 1092 00:47:51,730 --> 00:47:49,100 degrees centigrade high pressure very 1093 00:47:53,020 --> 00:47:51,740 very high pressure equipment dangerous 1094 00:47:55,900 --> 00:47:53,030 you know it needs to be done by the 1095 00:47:58,240 --> 00:47:55,910 refinery not at home but they have 1096 00:48:01,360 --> 00:47:58,250 catalytic crackers at the refinery they 1097 00:48:05,110 --> 00:48:01,370 could simply design these to crack their 1098 00:48:08,770 --> 00:48:05,120 fuel into methanol and they they won't 1099 00:48:13,180 --> 00:48:08,780 do it because that would cut our our 1100 00:48:15,700 --> 00:48:13,190 usage by 80% right right there and uh in 1101 00:48:18,610 --> 00:48:15,710 that paragraph I had read I mentioned 1102 00:48:20,860 --> 00:48:18,620 that Stanley Steamer personal vehicle 1103 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:20,870 that you wrote about and it seems so 1104 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:23,690 strange a steam-powered personal vehicle 1105 00:48:29,950 --> 00:48:25,970 you know what was that like how 1106 00:48:32,740 --> 00:48:29,960 efficient was that well I'm glad you 1107 00:48:34,570 --> 00:48:32,750 asked because I I was so interested in 1108 00:48:37,210 --> 00:48:34,580 this car that I went to the Stanley 1109 00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:37,220 Steamer Museum which is in Gothenburg 1110 00:48:43,450 --> 00:48:40,400 can't remember Allen's well it's in 1111 00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:43,460 Colorado estie's Park that's where it's 1112 00:48:48,850 --> 00:48:46,400 at there's a Stanley Steamer Museum and 1113 00:48:52,810 --> 00:48:48,860 it's got about six or seven beautiful 1114 00:48:56,770 --> 00:48:52,820 Stanley steamers they are just wonderful 1115 00:48:58,930 --> 00:48:56,780 pieces of engineering work they could 1116 00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:58,940 run on anything that would burn either 1117 00:49:03,250 --> 00:49:01,040 they usually use gasoline because 1118 00:49:06,430 --> 00:49:03,260 gasoline you know started out as being 1119 00:49:08,110 --> 00:49:06,440 very cheap so we all got hooked on it so 1120 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:08,120 you could use gasoline or kerosene or 1121 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:12,530 diesel or alcohol anything that would 1122 00:49:17,690 --> 00:49:15,650 boil water and it was a two cylinder 1123 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:17,700 engine the engine was about 1124 00:49:23,269 --> 00:49:20,970 well maybe 50 to 100 pounds you know if 1125 00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:23,279 you looked at it compared to a Model T 1126 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:25,730 of four-cylinder Model T engine it was a 1127 00:49:31,609 --> 00:49:28,650 fraction of the weight now it also had 1128 00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:31,619 to have a boiler but the thing that's 1129 00:49:35,450 --> 00:49:33,599 neat about the Stanley Steamer is that 1130 00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:35,460 there's no electrical system required 1131 00:49:39,620 --> 00:49:37,680 you could start it with a match you 1132 00:49:41,420 --> 00:49:39,630 didn't need a starter motor you didn't 1133 00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:41,430 need a clutch you didn't need a 1134 00:49:46,489 --> 00:49:43,710 transmission and that's the beauty of 1135 00:49:48,019 --> 00:49:46,499 steam it performs the clutch and the 1136 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:48,029 transmission for you 1137 00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:51,690 so you're basically always direct drive 1138 00:49:57,259 --> 00:49:54,720 or just opening steam valves steam 1139 00:49:59,089 --> 00:49:57,269 engine has maximum torque it's like zero 1140 00:50:01,370 --> 00:49:59,099 rpm because the steam pressure just 1141 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:01,380 keeps building until the device starts 1142 00:50:04,789 --> 00:50:02,130 to move 1143 00:50:06,380 --> 00:50:04,799 whereas was like a combustion engine if 1144 00:50:09,859 --> 00:50:06,390 it doesn't move the engine just stalls 1145 00:50:12,109 --> 00:50:09,869 just that's it you got to restart it Ram 1146 00:50:13,940 --> 00:50:12,119 it up steam engine you just leave it in 1147 00:50:17,630 --> 00:50:13,950 gear and just let the steam pressure 1148 00:50:20,509 --> 00:50:17,640 keep building and you start moving I'm 1149 00:50:22,489 --> 00:50:20,519 as wonderful wonderful power and the the 1150 00:50:24,829 --> 00:50:22,499 Stanley Steamer was in terms of 1151 00:50:27,650 --> 00:50:24,839 efficiency it was about a 15 mile per 1152 00:50:30,140 --> 00:50:27,660 gallon vehicle not as efficient as I 1153 00:50:31,819 --> 00:50:30,150 would have thought but I know with some 1154 00:50:34,819 --> 00:50:31,829 refinement they could have gotten those 1155 00:50:37,819 --> 00:50:34,829 up to 100 miles per gallon without too 1156 00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:37,829 much difficulty this is so interesting 1157 00:50:42,229 --> 00:50:40,529 and those electric cars early electric 1158 00:50:44,930 --> 00:50:42,239 cars I'm sure people have in their heads 1159 00:50:46,910 --> 00:50:44,940 that they were pretty basic and 1160 00:50:50,180 --> 00:50:46,920 rudimentary but you say that they were 1161 00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:50,190 around like 20 years before I mean 1162 00:50:55,309 --> 00:50:52,079 that's 20 years that's huge and these 1163 00:50:56,900 --> 00:50:55,319 were also pretty effective right yes 1164 00:50:59,029 --> 00:50:56,910 they were very effective they even had 1165 00:51:02,059 --> 00:50:59,039 the battery exchange program by 1166 00:51:05,420 --> 00:51:02,069 Philadelphia Electric Company and you 1167 00:51:07,609 --> 00:51:05,430 basically just exchanged batteries with 1168 00:51:11,269 --> 00:51:07,619 them this went on for I think 15 years 1169 00:51:15,849 --> 00:51:11,279 they had this program electric cars are 1170 00:51:19,339 --> 00:51:15,859 much easier to construct in these very 1171 00:51:21,769 --> 00:51:19,349 complicated gasoline engines you know 1172 00:51:24,049 --> 00:51:21,779 they've got so many potential problems 1173 00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:24,059 you know they want to backfire they want 1174 00:51:27,770 --> 00:51:25,920 to run on they don't want to start they 1175 00:51:31,190 --> 00:51:27,780 want a vapor lock 1176 00:51:34,460 --> 00:51:31,200 the fuel is it's got to be just right or 1177 00:51:37,839 --> 00:51:34,470 too much carbon the valves will stick 1178 00:51:40,910 --> 00:51:37,849 the Pistons will wear out it's really a 1179 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:40,920 lot of engineering went into a really 1180 00:51:45,380 --> 00:51:42,690 lousy design to get that thing to work 1181 00:51:46,730 --> 00:51:45,390 at all whereas when they were starting 1182 00:51:49,550 --> 00:51:46,740 with electricity they had a winning 1183 00:51:53,690 --> 00:51:49,560 design and it would have just gotten 1184 00:51:56,540 --> 00:51:53,700 better and better and better man and the 1185 00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:56,550 Riker is just one example that was one 1186 00:52:00,920 --> 00:51:58,410 of the ones I picked because it was 1187 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:00,930 preferred by the rich because it was it 1188 00:52:06,050 --> 00:52:03,090 was so safe never ever have to worry 1189 00:52:09,260 --> 00:52:06,060 about the thing not starting and back in 1190 00:52:12,170 --> 00:52:09,270 those days that was a big deal just so 1191 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:12,180 interesting to have the whole kind of 1192 00:52:15,859 --> 00:52:13,890 visual component of what you think that 1193 00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:15,869 time was flipped on its head I just 1194 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:17,599 loved that 1195 00:52:23,900 --> 00:52:20,970 yeah it was fun it was and I give a lot 1196 00:52:25,700 --> 00:52:23,910 of credit to this Internet and I it's 1197 00:52:27,980 --> 00:52:25,710 wonderful the way you can fact check 1198 00:52:31,250 --> 00:52:27,990 stuff without having to go down to the 1199 00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:31,260 library and dig dig dig right and that's 1200 00:52:36,589 --> 00:52:32,730 what I did I just fact checked 1201 00:52:39,140 --> 00:52:36,599 everything I could and wrote it down the 1202 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:39,150 way it really was and I think I 1203 00:52:42,290 --> 00:52:40,530 mentioned that I first wrote a whole 1204 00:52:43,310 --> 00:52:42,300 other book called the rides installed a 1205 00:52:45,500 --> 00:52:43,320 piston engine 1206 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:45,510 I wrote that book before I even started 1207 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:48,570 the Titanic and Hindenburg so I was 1208 00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:51,210 already on to the oil industry something 1209 00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:53,250 wrong here the fact that they promoted 1210 00:52:58,940 --> 00:52:56,880 the worst possible engine they could 1211 00:53:00,820 --> 00:52:58,950 have now you mentioned something else 1212 00:53:05,060 --> 00:53:00,830 about what was going on before that 1213 00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:05,070 before that as far back as 1796 they'd 1214 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:08,310 invented the Stirling engine and that's 1215 00:53:14,030 --> 00:53:10,770 that's a really interesting engine it's 1216 00:53:16,170 --> 00:53:14,040 is a piston engine with about 1/4 of the 1217 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:16,180 moving parts 1218 00:53:22,410 --> 00:53:19,210 of a combustion engine and more 1219 00:53:24,329 --> 00:53:22,420 efficient and does not need an electric 1220 00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:24,339 starter does not need an electric system 1221 00:53:29,700 --> 00:53:27,040 does not need an exhaust system and does 1222 00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:29,710 not need a cooling system that's a 1223 00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:31,510 Stirling engine it's kind of like a gas 1224 00:53:37,020 --> 00:53:34,089 engine and it just kind of reuses its 1225 00:53:39,780 --> 00:53:37,030 same gas back and forth from one piston 1226 00:53:43,290 --> 00:53:39,790 to the other and it has a hot end and it 1227 00:53:46,530 --> 00:53:43,300 has a cold in and what you use to supply 1228 00:53:48,660 --> 00:53:46,540 heat to the hot end is anything that 1229 00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:48,670 will burn anything that'll burn grass 1230 00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:52,510 clippings hay gasoline sure diesel fuel 1231 00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:55,510 or you could even use lard anything that 1232 00:54:01,170 --> 00:53:58,000 will burn so these these kinds of 1233 00:54:02,609 --> 00:54:01,180 designs are very much ground upon 1234 00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:02,619 they're avoided by the oil industry 1235 00:54:08,849 --> 00:54:06,250 because they are more efficient right 1236 00:54:10,530 --> 00:54:08,859 it's a fuel consumption and that's a 1237 00:54:12,690 --> 00:54:10,540 great point about the engine too because 1238 00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:12,700 you say that gasoline was formulated to 1239 00:54:16,260 --> 00:54:14,559 ensure we would never get good gas 1240 00:54:18,690 --> 00:54:16,270 mileage you know that's right obviously 1241 00:54:20,069 --> 00:54:18,700 a key component and the it's coupled 1242 00:54:22,170 --> 00:54:20,079 with the engine being the most 1243 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:22,180 inefficient engine design they could 1244 00:54:25,049 --> 00:54:23,530 come up with because they got a product 1245 00:54:26,849 --> 00:54:25,059 to sell and they don't want to just 1246 00:54:29,940 --> 00:54:26,859 eliminate the alternative they want to 1247 00:54:31,410 --> 00:54:29,950 get the most out of the only option 1248 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:31,420 they're going to give us so fuel 1249 00:54:35,849 --> 00:54:33,970 efficiency has been you know basically 1250 00:54:37,740 --> 00:54:35,859 off the table and now we talk about it 1251 00:54:40,770 --> 00:54:37,750 in the last decade or two but even then 1252 00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:40,780 it's a snail's pace right well and I 1253 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:44,049 also mentioned in there that from 1850 1254 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:46,450 on there was torpedo development that 1255 00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:50,410 involved all kinds of exotic fuels like 1256 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:53,049 hydrazine and hydrogen peroxide and 1257 00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:56,290 methanol mixed with hydrogen peroxide 1258 00:55:01,800 --> 00:54:58,720 these fuels later showed up in Germany 1259 00:55:05,460 --> 00:55:01,810 in this flying jet plane called the 1260 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:05,470 comet that was a rocket-powered plane 1261 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:07,570 ran on hydrazine and hydrogen peroxide 1262 00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:11,890 they were using these fuels back in 1850 1263 00:55:15,930 --> 00:55:14,110 and onward up as they were developing 1264 00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:15,940 torpedoes and they never messed with 1265 00:55:21,690 --> 00:55:18,670 gasoline because it was such lousy fuel 1266 00:55:24,330 --> 00:55:21,700 they did they mess with it and these 1267 00:55:29,150 --> 00:55:24,340 were turbine powered these torpedoes 1268 00:55:32,550 --> 00:55:29,160 were extremely powerful and compact and 1269 00:55:34,020 --> 00:55:32,560 they were building scavs of them it's 1270 00:55:36,810 --> 00:55:34,030 not because they had so many submarines 1271 00:55:38,250 --> 00:55:36,820 but they use them for harbor defense and 1272 00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:38,260 all you need to do is get a couple of 1273 00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:40,000 these put them on a barge within your 1274 00:55:44,130 --> 00:55:41,680 Harbor and then you can stop a 1275 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:44,140 battleship from coming in and wreaking 1276 00:55:50,430 --> 00:55:46,090 havoc and shelling your city you know 1277 00:55:55,410 --> 00:55:50,440 so torpedoes for Harbor defense was huge 1278 00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:55,420 business toward the 1890s 1900s right 1279 00:55:59,520 --> 00:55:58,000 around it there and it was big business 1280 00:56:01,560 --> 00:55:59,530 there these were sold all over the world 1281 00:56:04,770 --> 00:56:01,570 and there was a lot of technology there 1282 00:56:07,110 --> 00:56:04,780 and none of this was ever applied to our 1283 00:56:08,910 --> 00:56:07,120 car transportation industry and it 1284 00:56:11,070 --> 00:56:08,920 didn't go into our aviation industry 1285 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:11,080 either instead of giving us turbine 1286 00:56:17,550 --> 00:56:13,570 engines in our World War 1 planes they 1287 00:56:19,890 --> 00:56:17,560 gave us these gigantic rotary engines 1288 00:56:21,450 --> 00:56:19,900 that you know is the most blunt engine 1289 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:21,460 design you could possibly come up with 1290 00:56:26,430 --> 00:56:24,010 it's just a giant bow you know what I'm 1291 00:56:28,550 --> 00:56:26,440 talking about with a rotary piston 1292 00:56:32,940 --> 00:56:28,560 engine where you have like 9 or 11 1293 00:56:36,420 --> 00:56:32,950 cylinders in a circle mm-hmm like a 1294 00:56:38,490 --> 00:56:36,430 Corsair typical example Navy Hellcat 1295 00:56:40,830 --> 00:56:38,500 things like this they had these if you 1296 00:56:43,290 --> 00:56:40,840 notice Germans always went to like v8s 1297 00:56:47,220 --> 00:56:43,300 v12s a hoe has put their engines in line 1298 00:56:50,220 --> 00:56:47,230 and they were water-cooled but not not 1299 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:50,230 us man we had to use these big huge 1300 00:56:58,620 --> 00:56:55,210 radial engines that just consumed huge 1301 00:57:02,070 --> 00:56:58,630 amounts of fuel to get them to go 3 400 1302 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:02,080 knots just a gigantic wind baffle going 1303 00:57:07,890 --> 00:57:05,170 through the air so we could have applied 1304 00:57:09,780 --> 00:57:07,900 the torpedo technology could have gone 1305 00:57:12,690 --> 00:57:09,790 right into the first 1306 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:12,700 or with very compact turbine engines if 1307 00:57:19,380 --> 00:57:16,810 we had wanted to but that that was not 1308 00:57:20,970 --> 00:57:19,390 done and that is also so interesting 1309 00:57:23,220 --> 00:57:20,980 because you do write about several 1310 00:57:25,740 --> 00:57:23,230 aspects of World War two that come into 1311 00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:25,750 play during the saga seems to be another 1312 00:57:30,660 --> 00:57:28,240 pretty big piece of the puzzle and 1313 00:57:32,130 --> 00:57:30,670 correcting the history here what would 1314 00:57:34,350 --> 00:57:32,140 you consider some of the important 1315 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:34,360 things we should know to get into World 1316 00:57:39,050 --> 00:57:36,130 War 2 a little bit further and how it 1317 00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:39,060 relates to the big story here 1318 00:57:44,550 --> 00:57:42,160 well world war ii was planned it was a 1319 00:57:47,490 --> 00:57:44,560 continuation of world war 1 which was 1320 00:57:51,390 --> 00:57:47,500 the world's first gigantic petroleum 1321 00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:51,400 powered war and world war ii took that 1322 00:57:55,380 --> 00:57:53,710 to a whole nother level I can't remember 1323 00:57:59,280 --> 00:57:55,390 the figure in there I believe it's five 1324 00:58:02,130 --> 00:57:59,290 hundred billion yeah five hundred 1325 00:58:06,510 --> 00:58:02,140 billion gallons of petroleum were 1326 00:58:13,860 --> 00:58:06,520 consumed in World War two 1327 00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:13,870 and it's facing the the profit you know 1328 00:58:19,950 --> 00:58:17,440 this this is was not drilled for and 1329 00:58:22,310 --> 00:58:19,960 supplied by the the country by the US 1330 00:58:25,860 --> 00:58:22,320 military this was purchased from a 1331 00:58:28,050 --> 00:58:25,870 company right and not only that was 1332 00:58:30,690 --> 00:58:28,060 these oil companies supplied their fuel 1333 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:30,700 to the enemy as well as to the Allied so 1334 00:58:35,940 --> 00:58:33,130 they could basically play themselves 1335 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:35,950 upon each other you know is supply 1336 00:58:38,730 --> 00:58:36,490 demand 1337 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:38,740 I mean it's so there's so many conflicts 1338 00:58:44,910 --> 00:58:41,490 of interest of business here 1339 00:58:46,380 --> 00:58:44,920 government's allowing this to go on and 1340 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:46,390 of course the only reason they did is 1341 00:58:50,810 --> 00:58:48,610 because they were part of it right into 1342 00:58:52,650 --> 00:58:50,820 the eye the oil industry was above them 1343 00:58:55,110 --> 00:58:52,660 not the other way around 1344 00:58:57,770 --> 00:58:55,120 well tycoons and bankers they run the 1345 00:59:00,380 --> 00:58:57,780 world they 1346 00:59:02,870 --> 00:59:00,390 they got a few more years it's got to 1347 00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:02,880 come to an end got to they know it they 1348 00:59:08,950 --> 00:59:05,760 know it but it's all out there now it's 1349 00:59:11,990 --> 00:59:08,960 all been done in delineated history will 1350 00:59:14,540 --> 00:59:12,000 provide the evidence necessary to 1351 00:59:16,820 --> 00:59:14,550 convict them of what they've done and a 1352 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:16,830 lot of these guys might think they've 1353 00:59:22,370 --> 00:59:18,690 died and gone off to heaven and gotten 1354 00:59:26,060 --> 00:59:22,380 away with it but they haven't that's all 1355 00:59:28,340 --> 00:59:26,070 going to come out yeah and anybody 1356 00:59:31,340 --> 00:59:28,350 that's listening to me and it's getting 1357 00:59:33,710 --> 00:59:31,350 angry because I'm saying things that are 1358 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:33,720 kind of blowing their paradigm is you 1359 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:37,290 know I'm I'm doing this completely free 1360 00:59:40,820 --> 00:59:38,970 of charge I've decided I'm not going to 1361 00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,830 try and make a book out of this I'm not 1362 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:42,240 going to try and make a profit 1363 00:59:50,030 --> 00:59:47,130 I want this material out there I think 1364 00:59:52,430 --> 00:59:50,040 only about the only possible defense I 1365 00:59:55,910 --> 00:59:52,440 have is that I'm going to give this book 1366 00:59:59,180 --> 00:59:55,920 away for free so we can we can give out 1367 01:00:02,450 --> 00:59:59,190 this website and they can email me and I 1368 01:00:06,170 --> 01:00:02,460 will send them first six chapters of 1369 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:06,180 this book and they can then get back to 1370 01:00:10,730 --> 01:00:08,010 me and if they're sincere I'll give them 1371 01:00:13,140 --> 01:00:10,740 some more but if they want to try and 1372 01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:13,150 tear me apart 1373 01:00:17,339 --> 01:00:15,609 but I think I think I can stimulate a 1374 01:00:19,049 --> 01:00:17,349 lot more research 1375 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:19,059 Andrew book writing out there I think 1376 01:00:22,650 --> 01:00:20,650 people listening to this they're going 1377 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:22,660 to immediately know just by hearing what 1378 01:00:26,819 --> 01:00:24,490 I told them about that debris field with 1379 01:00:30,750 --> 01:00:26,829 regard to the Titanic that we have been 1380 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:30,760 had and gosh what a wonderful thing to 1381 01:00:39,569 --> 01:00:34,650 lift from the human psychic is this 1382 01:00:42,029 --> 01:00:39,579 terrible ship disaster that it really 1383 01:00:44,849 --> 01:00:42,039 had all of us scared of ever ever 1384 01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:44,859 traveling by sea and they had all of 1385 01:00:49,380 --> 01:00:46,960 those people who built ships and design 1386 01:00:52,589 --> 01:00:49,390 ships in total quandary as to how their 1387 01:00:54,569 --> 01:00:52,599 ship didn't work when their their 1388 01:00:58,260 --> 01:00:54,579 engineering principles were sound they 1389 01:01:00,809 --> 01:00:58,270 were very sound so where I'm trying to 1390 01:01:02,370 --> 01:01:00,819 lift this veil and tomorrow is going to 1391 01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:02,380 be a lot better day than it was today 1392 01:01:09,990 --> 01:01:06,510 but I just like to say that the truth 1393 01:01:12,990 --> 01:01:10,000 never suffers from his honest 1394 01:01:16,140 --> 01:01:13,000 examination of the facts amen 1395 01:01:18,569 --> 01:01:16,150 so I've given you some facts I've given 1396 01:01:21,390 --> 01:01:18,579 everyone some facts before you condemn 1397 01:01:24,089 --> 01:01:21,400 me take a look at those pieces at the 1398 01:01:25,859 --> 01:01:24,099 bottom of the Titanic and take a look at 1399 01:01:30,990 --> 01:01:25,869 that debris field and take a look at the 1400 01:01:32,730 --> 01:01:31,000 tear drawing from wormwood and I don't 1401 01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:32,740 think you're going to want to condemn me 1402 01:01:38,700 --> 01:01:34,089 after that I think you're going to 1403 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:38,710 realize it somehow they have done a real 1404 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:41,410 number on us yeah you know 1405 01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:43,210 psychologically I don't I don't know how 1406 01:01:50,460 --> 01:01:46,510 they got us to believe that the Titanic 1407 01:01:52,380 --> 01:01:50,470 broke itself into two pieces in the act 1408 01:01:53,849 --> 01:01:52,390 of sinking I mean there's a lot of 1409 01:01:56,579 --> 01:01:53,859 people who feel the exact same way about 1410 01:01:58,680 --> 01:01:56,589 jet fuel melting steel beams I mean how 1411 01:02:00,870 --> 01:01:58,690 do you have just a lie but the media 1412 01:02:02,789 --> 01:02:00,880 manipulation is just so strong and 1413 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:02,799 people are conditioned from kindergarten 1414 01:02:07,289 --> 01:02:05,650 to only accept things from authority 1415 01:02:09,299 --> 01:02:07,299 figure authority figures have to tell 1416 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:09,309 you things all through school they're 1417 01:02:13,470 --> 01:02:11,890 infallible and the same goes for the 1418 01:02:15,630 --> 01:02:13,480 media I mean they're the authority and 1419 01:02:18,180 --> 01:02:15,640 people just don't take in any 1420 01:02:20,069 --> 01:02:18,190 information that doesn't come from those 1421 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:20,079 authority figures in the mainstream you 1422 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:23,650 know in a lot of cases yeah a wonderful 1423 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:26,650 race and we're very trusting and 1424 01:02:31,860 --> 01:02:28,930 they take advantage of our trust mm-hmm 1425 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:31,870 they put it on it a modern media give it 1426 01:02:38,670 --> 01:02:35,650 a new look and it's easy for us to fall 1427 01:02:40,290 --> 01:02:38,680 for it is they bring it right into the 1428 01:02:42,090 --> 01:02:40,300 comfort of our own homes they give us 1429 01:02:46,490 --> 01:02:42,100 these high-definition TVs like they 1430 01:02:48,690 --> 01:02:46,500 really love us and we believe it we do 1431 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:48,700 everything that comes to that TV is 1432 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:51,970 either to propagandize us or to keep us 1433 01:02:55,830 --> 01:02:53,770 distracted and it's one of the two 1434 01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:55,840 things and they serve really the same 1435 01:03:00,390 --> 01:02:57,930 purpose which is don't look at the 1436 01:03:03,300 --> 01:03:00,400 puppet masters and the plans they have 1437 01:03:05,310 --> 01:03:03,310 in place just go about your daily cog in 1438 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:05,320 the wheel life the nine-to-five reality 1439 01:03:08,490 --> 01:03:07,930 and then you know die as quick as you 1440 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:08,500 can please 1441 01:03:18,330 --> 01:03:15,250 yeah oh boy isn't that the truth oh and 1442 01:03:20,310 --> 01:03:18,340 well there are just layers and layers of 1443 01:03:22,980 --> 01:03:20,320 red flags to this thing you make a 1444 01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:22,990 really great case I love the book I 1445 01:03:27,270 --> 01:03:24,910 think it's so impressive it's such a 1446 01:03:28,830 --> 01:03:27,280 huge undertaking to even write the book 1447 01:03:31,650 --> 01:03:28,840 and then to turn around and say that 1448 01:03:34,170 --> 01:03:31,660 you're going to you know be generous 1449 01:03:36,180 --> 01:03:34,180 enough to offer that up free to 1450 01:03:38,570 --> 01:03:36,190 interested people who get in contact 1451 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:38,580 with you I mean it's a beautiful thing 1452 01:03:44,370 --> 01:03:41,890 well thanks for that I I think it's time 1453 01:03:46,830 --> 01:03:44,380 to start giving away what we can give 1454 01:03:49,050 --> 01:03:46,840 away to humanity and all you people out 1455 01:03:52,500 --> 01:03:49,060 there that have the design for how to 1456 01:03:54,300 --> 01:03:52,510 convert water into make it burn let us 1457 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:54,310 have that design will you tell us what 1458 01:03:58,860 --> 01:03:56,050 that frequency is where that water 1459 01:04:01,590 --> 01:03:58,870 molecule comes apart and separates 1460 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:01,600 readily those of you have a free energy 1461 01:04:09,780 --> 01:04:04,330 design let us have it get it out there 1462 01:04:12,410 --> 01:04:09,790 because otherwise we're that's how we 1463 01:04:15,870 --> 01:04:12,420 can win that's how we can win and we 1464 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:15,880 need to win as a whole and within and 1465 01:04:22,140 --> 01:04:19,690 that's we'll all be winners yeah cheers 1466 01:04:24,150 --> 01:04:22,150 to that well thanks again for being here 1467 01:04:27,750 --> 01:04:24,160 and take care of yourself all right man 1468 01:04:31,050 --> 01:04:27,760 I will I will be in touch we'll see what 1469 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:31,060 happens all right thank you Greg you got 1470 01:04:33,799 --> 01:04:32,130 it 1471 01:04:38,959 --> 01:04:33,809 ha 1472 01:04:41,719 --> 01:04:38,969 lay lujah people Kenneth M price jr. a 1473 01:04:43,910 --> 01:04:41,729 new face in this space and a fresh 1474 01:04:47,719 --> 01:04:43,920 perspective on the influence and 1475 01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:47,729 gameplay of the oil industry I love it I 1476 01:04:51,319 --> 01:04:49,049 know we've talked about these subjects 1477 01:04:53,809 --> 01:04:51,329 before but I think mr. price brings a 1478 01:04:55,670 --> 01:04:53,819 new level of clarity to it and expands 1479 01:04:58,370 --> 01:04:55,680 it further than I've ever heard before I 1480 01:05:00,319 --> 01:04:58,380 think the narrative of parallel stories 1481 01:05:02,150 --> 01:05:00,329 between the Titanic and Hindenburg makes 1482 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:02,160 a lot of sense and if you think about 1483 01:05:06,439 --> 01:05:05,130 the context of the time and also you 1484 01:05:08,829 --> 01:05:06,449 need to know the numbers and the 1485 01:05:11,539 --> 01:05:08,839 viability of these other fuel sources a 1486 01:05:13,609 --> 01:05:11,549 picture starts to emerge and another 1487 01:05:17,449 --> 01:05:13,619 thing Ken said to me in an email after 1488 01:05:20,599 --> 01:05:17,459 the show was that one ton of coal has 1489 01:05:23,299 --> 01:05:20,609 the same energy content as a hundred and 1490 01:05:24,949 --> 01:05:23,309 eighty-eight gallons of petroleum he 1491 01:05:26,809 --> 01:05:24,959 goes on to say so people will know that 1492 01:05:28,759 --> 01:05:26,819 when they lobby to shut down coal 1493 01:05:31,819 --> 01:05:28,769 they're really just helping the oil 1494 01:05:33,949 --> 01:05:31,829 industry expand I know we're told coal 1495 01:05:35,569 --> 01:05:33,959 is so dirty and harmful but isn't it 1496 01:05:37,789 --> 01:05:35,579 possible that is propaganda 1497 01:05:40,249 --> 01:05:37,799 it doesn't seem worse than gasoline at 1498 01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:40,259 all I have charcoal toothpaste and a 1499 01:05:44,390 --> 01:05:42,089 charcoal bristle toothbrush for God's 1500 01:05:47,449 --> 01:05:44,400 sake and yes there are other 1501 01:05:50,419 --> 01:05:47,459 alternatives suppressed patents for all 1502 01:05:52,939 --> 01:05:50,429 kinds of exotic energies but let's just 1503 01:05:55,370 --> 01:05:52,949 get off on this level of the elevator 1504 01:05:57,319 --> 01:05:55,380 today and realize maybe we don't have to 1505 01:05:59,599 --> 01:05:57,329 dig that deep at all to find better 1506 01:06:01,339 --> 01:05:59,609 alternatives I mean I know people who 1507 01:06:03,769 --> 01:06:01,349 nearly drank themselves to death in high 1508 01:06:06,650 --> 01:06:03,779 school and charcoal saved their lives 1509 01:06:08,900 --> 01:06:06,660 I am [\h__\h] around a bit but I do have 1510 01:06:11,959 --> 01:06:08,910 a little micro obsession with this 1511 01:06:13,699 --> 01:06:11,969 chapter in the conspiracy story and I 1512 01:06:16,489 --> 01:06:13,709 was pretty lucky to have Ken actually 1513 01:06:18,319 --> 01:06:16,499 contact me I get a lot of people 1514 01:06:20,359 --> 01:06:18,329 contacting me to be on the higher side 1515 01:06:23,359 --> 01:06:20,369 these days and not all of them are of 1516 01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:23,369 such quality so it was a real pleasure 1517 01:06:27,919 --> 01:06:25,920 to do it I always get a charge when I 1518 01:06:30,229 --> 01:06:27,929 feel like I'm helping a new voice get 1519 01:06:32,599 --> 01:06:30,239 out there and a voice that I think knows 1520 01:06:35,390 --> 01:06:32,609 their stuff and this was sort of like 1521 01:06:37,669 --> 01:06:35,400 getting insight from a wise grandpa is 1522 01:06:41,150 --> 01:06:37,679 that weird to say I mean it in the best 1523 01:06:43,939 --> 01:06:41,160 possible of ways all due respect but 1524 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:43,949 people how cool of our guest to offer up 1525 01:06:49,380 --> 01:06:47,290 his book to you guys for free is 1526 01:06:52,500 --> 01:06:49,390 quite a while since we had an offer like 1527 01:06:54,270 --> 01:06:52,510 that and I think it is so worth it it's 1528 01:06:56,780 --> 01:06:54,280 very well written and it goes much 1529 01:07:00,450 --> 01:06:56,790 deeper than we could in just this two 1530 01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:00,460 short hours of conversation do email him 1531 01:07:07,290 --> 01:07:04,510 at exploded steamship at gmail.com it is 1532 01:07:09,810 --> 01:07:07,300 an easy one to remember I know a lot of 1533 01:07:11,550 --> 01:07:09,820 you are driving right now working right 1534 01:07:15,870 --> 01:07:11,560 now you can't write this down but just 1535 01:07:19,140 --> 01:07:15,880 remember exploded steamship at gmail.com 1536 01:07:21,570 --> 01:07:19,150 let's make Ken feel like his work and 1537 01:07:23,070 --> 01:07:21,580 insight is appreciated it would 1538 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:23,080 definitely mean a lot to me 1539 01:07:28,350 --> 01:07:24,730 not that you should have homework for 1540 01:07:30,990 --> 01:07:28,360 listening but you know as you know 1541 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:31,000 there's always a second hour to a THC 1542 01:07:35,940 --> 01:07:33,610 episode in this particular one we talked 1543 01:07:38,010 --> 01:07:35,950 about many more threads of the Titanic 1544 01:07:41,070 --> 01:07:38,020 disaster that strengthened the case for 1545 01:07:43,110 --> 01:07:41,080 foul play we talked about Marconi's role 1546 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:43,120 during the Titanic disaster and his 1547 01:07:47,580 --> 01:07:45,610 later role in investigating UFO s for 1548 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:47,590 Mussolini and how these things might be 1549 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:50,890 related can also drop some not-so-subtle 1550 01:07:54,660 --> 01:07:52,810 hints that oil might not be what we're 1551 01:07:57,650 --> 01:07:54,670 told it is and that there are some 1552 01:08:01,350 --> 01:07:57,660 conspiratorial threads to the TWA flight 1553 01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:01,360 800 crash we also got into who the 1554 01:08:06,660 --> 01:08:03,370 guilty parties really are here and how 1555 01:08:09,300 --> 01:08:06,670 the Jesuits might be connected as well 1556 01:08:11,340 --> 01:08:09,310 as of course JP Morgan and Rockefeller 1557 01:08:13,590 --> 01:08:11,350 we got into Ken's thoughts on the 1558 01:08:15,780 --> 01:08:13,600 Federal Reserve angle of course you 1559 01:08:17,250 --> 01:08:15,790 can't talk about the Titanic conspiracy 1560 01:08:20,099 --> 01:08:17,260 without bringing up the Federal Reserve 1561 01:08:21,750 --> 01:08:20,109 angle I think both Ken's angle on how 1562 01:08:24,809 --> 01:08:21,760 this worked for the oil industry and the 1563 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:24,819 Federal Reserve narrative can work but 1564 01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:27,250 the Titanic is obviously much more 1565 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:30,490 closely associated with energy and those 1566 01:08:35,610 --> 01:08:33,850 motives that Ken presents the Federal 1567 01:08:38,430 --> 01:08:35,620 Reserve is obviously just as big of a 1568 01:08:41,460 --> 01:08:38,440 deal but it's sort of a disjointed 1569 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:41,470 motive but these plans of the elite are 1570 01:08:46,110 --> 01:08:43,810 often very layered why should this be 1571 01:08:48,210 --> 01:08:46,120 any different we then got off the beaten 1572 01:08:50,370 --> 01:08:48,220 path a bit and talked about what ken 1573 01:08:53,130 --> 01:08:50,380 knows about the secret space program and 1574 01:08:54,990 --> 01:08:53,140 UFO tech why the global warming 1575 01:08:58,140 --> 01:08:55,000 narrative has been so aggressive when it 1576 01:09:00,539 --> 01:08:58,150 does seem to contradict the fuel selling 1577 01:09:01,169 --> 01:09:00,549 agenda of the elite and last but not 1578 01:09:03,719 --> 01:09:01,179 least the 1579 01:09:07,289 --> 01:09:03,729 idea of a global cash reset and how 1580 01:09:10,709 --> 01:09:07,299 likely that might be so fun stuff today 1581 01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:10,719 this closes out the month of March the 1582 01:09:14,459 --> 01:09:13,359 month of my birth and I think I'd give 1583 01:09:16,799 --> 01:09:14,469 it pretty high marks 1584 01:09:18,870 --> 01:09:16,809 Cosima Danna Ritzer the light bulb 1585 01:09:21,390 --> 01:09:18,880 conspiracy planned obsolescence good to 1586 01:09:22,589 --> 01:09:21,400 get a female voice on here it can be a 1587 01:09:24,989 --> 01:09:22,599 bit of a boys club 1588 01:09:26,519 --> 01:09:24,999 I hear the critics also the critics that 1589 01:09:29,370 --> 01:09:26,529 I don't have enough black voices either 1590 01:09:30,629 --> 01:09:29,380 and that might be true so a decent 1591 01:09:33,179 --> 01:09:30,639 amount of the time I don't even know 1592 01:09:35,309 --> 01:09:33,189 what race a guest is beforehand and 1593 01:09:38,669 --> 01:09:35,319 London honor doesn't answer my emails 1594 01:09:40,589 --> 01:09:38,679 anymore maybe it's the weed thing anyway 1595 01:09:42,719 --> 01:09:40,599 obviously I want this to be a show for 1596 01:09:45,569 --> 01:09:42,729 everyone so don't worry so much about 1597 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:45,579 that stuff but show number two we have 1598 01:09:50,969 --> 01:09:48,489 Brian Forrester I felt like this was a 1599 01:09:51,989 --> 01:09:50,979 great one the practice elongated skulls 1600 01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:51,999 and other weird stuff 1601 01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:55,360 Brian's answers were way shorter than a 1602 01:10:00,479 --> 01:09:58,090 usual guest sometimes I ask only five or 1603 01:10:02,399 --> 01:10:00,489 six questions in a two-hour show but 1604 01:10:05,009 --> 01:10:02,409 this is why I write six pages of notes 1605 01:10:07,949 --> 01:10:05,019 what I usually only need three we got 1606 01:10:10,049 --> 01:10:07,959 through a lot of material and I think 1607 01:10:13,429 --> 01:10:10,059 that's a beautiful thing it was a fun 1608 01:10:15,359 --> 01:10:13,439 one pretty rapid fire Adam Koch Ash 1609 01:10:17,069 --> 01:10:15,369 libertarianism self government and 1610 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:17,079 dissolving the state this one got some 1611 01:10:22,020 --> 01:10:20,050 attention some thinking that I'm right 1612 01:10:23,850 --> 01:10:22,030 some people think Adams right but I 1613 01:10:26,910 --> 01:10:23,860 think the fact that we can disagree and 1614 01:10:29,629 --> 01:10:26,920 still be cool was actually a rare thing 1615 01:10:32,129 --> 01:10:29,639 to see in 2017 in a political discussion 1616 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:32,139 people like to hear a guest challenged a 1617 01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:34,449 little bit which I never do feel super 1618 01:10:40,020 --> 01:10:37,209 comfortable with but it has been noted 1619 01:10:43,199 --> 01:10:40,030 guys I promise we grow and we evolve 1620 01:10:45,089 --> 01:10:43,209 right so the disagreement aspect might 1621 01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:45,099 have been interesting to some and I got 1622 01:10:48,330 --> 01:10:47,110 a lot of email saying oh well you need 1623 01:10:50,339 --> 01:10:48,340 to read this literature about 1624 01:10:53,310 --> 01:10:50,349 libertarianism or you need to get this 1625 01:10:55,020 --> 01:10:53,320 guy on to better explain it or maybe I 1626 01:10:57,419 --> 01:10:55,030 can come on and talk about my groups 1627 01:10:59,160 --> 01:10:57,429 version of libertarianism and I feel 1628 01:11:01,290 --> 01:10:59,170 yeah I know that there are a lot of 1629 01:11:03,449 --> 01:11:01,300 opinions out there and ways to look at 1630 01:11:06,719 --> 01:11:03,459 it but one thing that does sometimes 1631 01:11:08,879 --> 01:11:06,729 bother me is when people think that I 1632 01:11:11,790 --> 01:11:08,889 couldn't just possibly have a different 1633 01:11:13,770 --> 01:11:11,800 opinion it said I haven't read about it 1634 01:11:15,229 --> 01:11:13,780 enough or I haven't gotten the right 1635 01:11:17,300 --> 01:11:15,239 persons perspec 1636 01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:17,310 yes that's true sometimes but other 1637 01:11:23,350 --> 01:11:20,489 times it's not that a person doesn't see 1638 01:11:26,410 --> 01:11:23,360 the light it's that they just disagree 1639 01:11:28,910 --> 01:11:26,420 it's not always about convincing people 1640 01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:28,920 but besides that I really want to be 1641 01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:30,960 done with politics and shows about 1642 01:11:35,570 --> 01:11:33,120 anything related to the left-right 1643 01:11:37,850 --> 01:11:35,580 spectrum or some brand of political 1644 01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:37,860 ideology I'm a little fatigued I think 1645 01:11:41,270 --> 01:11:39,840 I'd rather talk about religion at this 1646 01:11:44,810 --> 01:11:41,280 point and I can't believe I'm saying 1647 01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:44,820 that but I do think that that point was 1648 01:11:49,879 --> 01:11:46,770 kind of proven with the next guest who 1649 01:11:52,010 --> 01:11:49,889 was Michael Joseph dissecting elite 1650 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:52,020 belief systems and their influence I 1651 01:11:56,689 --> 01:11:55,050 think this was the standout of the month 1652 01:11:59,570 --> 01:11:56,699 besides tonight's show which I also 1653 01:12:02,000 --> 01:11:59,580 think is right up there as new useful 1654 01:12:04,490 --> 01:12:02,010 and unique some people did get really 1655 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:04,500 mad at me about that episode how can you 1656 01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:07,770 say the elite are good and I did not say 1657 01:12:13,070 --> 01:12:10,110 that and it's not really even about that 1658 01:12:17,149 --> 01:12:13,080 come on you know me it's just about 1659 01:12:19,459 --> 01:12:17,159 maybe we don't know everything we hear 1660 01:12:21,830 --> 01:12:19,469 people talk about life as a stage and 1661 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:21,840 we're characters in a play and this idea 1662 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:24,330 that we chose this experience before we 1663 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:27,449 came here and if that's true it's true 1664 01:12:32,209 --> 01:12:29,850 for everyone isn't it people who play 1665 01:12:35,300 --> 01:12:32,219 villains in a play regardless of how 1666 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:35,310 real it seems aren't bad people are they 1667 01:12:40,430 --> 01:12:38,010 it's not an introductory idea and it's 1668 01:12:41,780 --> 01:12:40,440 definitely a controversial one and maybe 1669 01:12:45,110 --> 01:12:41,790 it's just some [\h__\h] that they 1670 01:12:47,270 --> 01:12:45,120 believe but even so if that's the case I 1671 01:12:49,669 --> 01:12:47,280 want to know about it I want to consider 1672 01:12:52,070 --> 01:12:49,679 it and I think we should be open to at 1673 01:12:55,310 --> 01:12:52,080 least seen every angle without a 1674 01:12:57,740 --> 01:12:55,320 knee-jerk emotional response that is the 1675 01:13:00,560 --> 01:12:57,750 higher side way and it's really my 1676 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:00,570 safety net it's my escape hatch because 1677 01:13:06,830 --> 01:13:04,650 I know that I can't be positive that 1678 01:13:09,860 --> 01:13:06,840 everything and anything a guest says is 1679 01:13:11,959 --> 01:13:09,870 right or true I can't there's no way so 1680 01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:11,969 I find voices that I think are 1681 01:13:17,090 --> 01:13:14,730 entertaining of course and have varying 1682 01:13:18,500 --> 01:13:17,100 degrees of merit and merit for various 1683 01:13:21,620 --> 01:13:18,510 reasons that aren't always on the 1684 01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:21,630 surface sometimes I let people ramble on 1685 01:13:27,189 --> 01:13:23,760 for a long long time just because I want 1686 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:27,199 them to say one or two specific things 1687 01:13:30,710 --> 01:13:28,530 whatever 1688 01:13:33,740 --> 01:13:30,720 but I just try to steer these voices to 1689 01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:33,750 present their best self their best case 1690 01:13:39,500 --> 01:13:36,810 and I might tell you to what degree I 1691 01:13:40,910 --> 01:13:39,510 like a particular perspective but I 1692 01:13:44,060 --> 01:13:40,920 don't try to claim to be an authority 1693 01:13:46,610 --> 01:13:44,070 and listeners are always urged to make 1694 01:13:49,540 --> 01:13:46,620 up their own minds and often hear 1695 01:13:52,340 --> 01:13:49,550 conflicting perspectives that's fine 1696 01:13:54,980 --> 01:13:52,350 there isn't a lot of debate on THC of 1697 01:13:57,650 --> 01:13:54,990 course but that's how I rectify that is 1698 01:13:59,450 --> 01:13:57,660 by getting conflicting voices to make 1699 01:14:02,750 --> 01:13:59,460 their own cases and then you can listen 1700 01:14:05,270 --> 01:14:02,760 to both shows and see where you lie so 1701 01:14:07,550 --> 01:14:05,280 when people question my credibility it's 1702 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:07,560 like credibility on what I am not 1703 01:14:13,820 --> 01:14:09,810 telling you what to think but maybe that 1704 01:14:15,950 --> 01:14:13,830 alone is suspicious in 2017 either way I 1705 01:14:18,410 --> 01:14:15,960 love you guys please please please 1706 01:14:20,510 --> 01:14:18,420 consider signing up for THC plus if you 1707 01:14:23,420 --> 01:14:20,520 like what I do I'm getting married in 1708 01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:23,430 July and not that that's anyone else's 1709 01:14:28,250 --> 01:14:26,130 problem but it is a thing and people 1710 01:14:30,020 --> 01:14:28,260 have gone through it might catch my 1711 01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:30,030 drift $5.00 a month 1712 01:14:35,830 --> 01:14:32,910 five extra hours of interviews come on 1713 01:14:38,330 --> 01:14:35,840 over to the higher side chats plus calm 1714 01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:38,340 also you might have forgotten about 1715 01:14:43,100 --> 01:14:41,040 higher side clothing JP Morgan and the 1716 01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:43,110 plot to destroy the Titanic do take 1717 01:14:47,870 --> 01:14:45,450 center stage on one of the new designs 1718 01:14:49,490 --> 01:14:47,880 it's definitely a personal favorite it 1719 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:49,500 looks like one of those old political 1720 01:14:55,010 --> 01:14:52,410 cartoons a lot of depth in that image I 1721 01:14:57,140 --> 01:14:55,020 will say check it out if you might want 1722 01:14:59,390 --> 01:14:57,150 to rep such a conspiracy from your 1723 01:15:02,000 --> 01:14:59,400 radiant chest but that's it for me this 1724 01:15:04,580 --> 01:15:02,010 week your move oil oligarchy and robber 1725 01:15:05,630 --> 01:15:04,590 barons of the energy quarantine your 1726 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:05,640 [\h__\h] 1727 01:15:17,300 --> 01:15:11,930 move they built a little Empire out of 1728 01:15:22,970 --> 01:15:17,310 some crazy garbage called the blood let 1729 01:15:27,980 --> 01:15:22,980 me Floyd it working class but they 1730 01:15:33,290 --> 01:15:27,990 fought upon now - no we're calling them 1731 01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:33,300 your highness and the world screams take 1732 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:39,840 me THC they destroyed the bonds of 1733 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:44,250 friendship and respect between the only 1734 01:15:54,380 --> 01:15:48,330 people left could even love them 1735 01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:54,390 any higher no they lost and read the 1736 01:16:04,540 --> 01:15:58,080 fortune of the same ones that they 1737 01:16:20,189 --> 01:16:04,550 torture and a world spring pygmy THC 1738 01:16:37,029 --> 01:16:20,199 [Music] 1739 01:16:42,180 --> 01:16:37,039 now you're the only one who me they 1740 01:16:47,189 --> 01:16:42,190 built a little Empire out of some crazy 1741 01:16:53,500 --> 01:16:47,199 garbage call the blood unemployed it 1742 01:16:57,250 --> 01:16:53,510 working class but they overcome her 1743 01:17:03,740 --> 01:16:57,260 shyness now we're calling mammy your